What is your dream scope for long range competition?

[retired]

i have a 5.5-22x 56 nsx on the rifle i use for long range.

 

[loud_noise]

I own an NF NXS in 8-32x56 which I love and have Sightron S-TAC 2-17.5 and and S3 10-50x60 on the way. These are all excellent scopes.

THat said though, if I could have one of those new model high end Khales in the 8-32 Range...well that would be just about all the scope you would ever need.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I wish Meopta would get the ball rolling and jump in the long range game with everyone else...

But would also have to agree with Alex. Being that Swarovski owns Kahles, hopefully they can get a high mag scope out with Swaro SV glass and Kahles internal mechanics. Would definitely be a show stopper.

 

[Sniper338]

My perfect scope isnt made... itd be a cross between a march 10-60 highmaster and a S&B PM2 FFP with a 3/32 dot in the MSR reticle

 

[retired]

define LONG RANGE.
I SEE several scopes with limited elevation.

After testing many scopes over the years, I have a dream scope that I have never used, but have read enough about it to covet those who have used it. Some of my favorites that I have tested are the 36X Valdada BR, the 42X NF BR, the 10x-60x March LR, the Sightron 10x-50X, the 10x-50X Kahles MOAK,View attachment 1054645 and the Vortex Golden Eagle.

All of the above have been great scopes for 600 yard competition, but I would love to try a scope that I call the M.O.A.B.S. (mother of all big scopes). This is a BIG, Expensive scope, but for those that can afford the cost ($3695) and the weight (3#) it may be the ideal long-range scope. It is a 12x-52x by 56 mm scope on a 40 mm tube. It features superb Schott glass from Germany and has a unique parallax adjustment. Good shooting....James

 

[jamesdmock]

define LONG RANGE.
I SEE several scopes with limited elevation.

Since you are so proud to be retired, why don't you retire from posting your vile comments? We would all be grateful. Good shooting...James Mock

 

[jamesdmock]

I don't think one imperfect optical thing compared to another is a good idea if revealing the imperfections is the mission. What if both have the same amount in opposite directions then cancel each other out?

An optical collimator in the muzzle is much better. As is a bench collimator the scope mounts on. Do it at home and without ammo. They're easy to make.

Good luck using collimators to check POA shifts in scopes. James

 

[CaptainMal]

For those influenced by financial constrains ( like me), the Vortex Golden Eagle 15-60X and Nightforce BR 12-42X scopes can be had near-new right from this forums' classifieds. Pricing will be around $1,100 + - . Best buys on the market and you give up NOTHING to the expensive boys from a mechanical standpoint. The Vortex Golden Eagle seems to have a forgiving eye box and optics like those Kahles and March scopes costing twice the price or more.

The Nightforce BR scopes have flawless mechanicals and optics just a little less than the Nightforce Competition models but better than the others mentioned.

My opinion after playing with and owning many. Vortex Golden Eagle and Nightforce BR - best buys on the market with quality support from the manufacturers.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I don't think one imperfect optical thing compared to another is a good idea if revealing the imperfections is the mission. What if both have the same amount in opposite directions then cancel each other out?

An optical collimator in the muzzle is much better. As is a bench collimator the scope mounts on. Do it at home and without ammo. They're easy to make.

I don't agree, they need to be tested as fired with live ammunition.. I don't think a "perfect" optical collimator in a lab setting is remotely similar to the harmonics of real world shootin or is the results.. JMO though

Ray

 

[Raythemanroe]

For those influenced by financial constrains ( like me), the Vortex Golden Eagle 15-60X and Nightforce BR 12-42X scopes can be had near-new right from this forums' classifieds. Pricing will be around $1,100 + - . Best buys on the market and you give up NOTHING to the expensive boys from a mechanical standpoint. The Vortex Golden Eagle seems to have a forgiving eye box and optics like those Kahles and March scopes costing twice the price or more.

The Nightforce BR scopes have flawless mechanicals and optics just a little less than the Nightforce Competition models but better than the others mentioned.

My opinion after playing with and owning many. Vortex Golden Eagle and Nightforce BR - best buys on the market with quality support from the manufacturers.

I would add a Sightron to this, but I am liking my GE.

Ray

 

[mikecockcroft]

Nightforce BR 12-42 with side parallax knob and golden eagle ECR reticle

 

[KWeigel]

Nightforce BR 12-42 with side parallax knob and golden eagle ECR reticle

This ^ but I’m keeping my NP-2DD. Best reticle ever made for my style of shooting.

 

[Bart B.]

Good luck using collimators to check POA shifts in scopes. James

I've had very good luck. Actually, it was more skill than luck. One needs all the right stuff then do all the right stuff.

 

[rardoin]

I've had very good luck. Actually, it was more skill than luck. One needs all the right stuff then do all the right stuff.

What is the perceived issue with using a fixed reticle (frozen turret) scope as the reference scope?

 

[Bart B.]

I don't think a "perfect" optical collimator in a lab setting is remotely similar to the harmonics of real world shootin or is the results.

If the collimator can be shocked like rifles recoil, it'll do well enough. Mine is built that way.

 

[Bart B.]

What is the perceived issue with using a fixed reticle (frozen turret) scope as the reference scope?

If there are no scope adjustments whatsoever except for eyepiece focus, then it might work. No power, range focus, elevation nor windage adjustment.

 

[rardoin]

If there are no scope adjustments whatsoever except for eyepiece focus, then it might work. No power, range focus, elevation nor windage adjustment.

That is what this checker is designed to operate with. I have a fixed power/frozen scope on my unit.

 

[mikehotel]

I have a couple NF's, and no complaints. However a few months ago I couldn't pass up a vortex golden eagle because of the price. My choice was the ECR- 1MOA reticle. But another feature that comes in handy, it the 35mm ASR that screws on the sunshade or objective lens and it really helps cut down some the light on those very bright days. Like this scope

 

[Bart B.]

That is what this checker is designed to operate with. I have a fixed power/frozen scope on my unit.

What's your unit mounted on?

 

[retired]

wow..that is pretty rude for a VALID question.
some scopes will not reach 2000 without help.
some only have 40-60 moa elevation
the 5.5-22x has 100 moa elevation
something to consider when shooting REAL long range.

you asked the question,
i simply asked for clarification.

Since you are so proud to be retired, why don't you retire from posting your vile comments? We would all be grateful. Good shooting...James Mock