Someone talk me the hell out of this!! LOL

[pirate ammo]

I would NEVER talk someone out of a new shooten iron,don"t matter what it is!!

 

[4xforfun]

To be clear...not buying a gun...just thinking about chambering up anther tube.

Something like a 32- 34 inch 1-7.5 twist.

 

[4xforfun]

Tod,

Look at the Hornady 6.5 PRC. Fit's your action w/o opening up the feed rails for the bigger cases.

150 Sierra's in mine stay super sonic to 1950.

Looks like that would be the same as my 6.5 WSSM.......2900 - 3000 with the 140.

Just checking my shooter app.....the 140 Hybrid at 3400 goes subsonic at 1850. What do you shoot at 3000 ish that stays SS past 1900??

 

[alf]

Just checking my shooter app.....the 140 Hybrid at 3400 goes subsonic at 1850. What do you shoot at 3000 ish that stays SS past 1900??

150 SMK's at 3025 in my PRC.

 

[dmoran]

@4xforfun
While I've read the "hype" about bullet transition through transonic to subsonic, myself have never shot any bullet that I could see was effected by it. Have shot many types of bullets out to 1-mile that were subsonic long before they got to the target, that yielded sub-1MOA accuracy and printed nice round symmetrical holes.

Another example; some of the longest military sniper kills, the bullets were subsonic.

Maybe just me, but I do not see the need to fuse over it like some do. And have seen how "speed" can deplete accuracy often enough at basically any distance. Will agree we need adequate ballistics and bullet designs to make the trip for ELR, but I won't concern myself at all if the bullet is at subsonic speeds getting there.

Just my 2-Cents
Donovan

 

[4xforfun]

@4xforfun
While I've read the "hype" about bullet transition through transonic to subsonic, myself have never shot any bullet that I could see was effected by it. Have shot many types of bullets out to 1-mile that were subsonic long before they got to the target, that yielded sub-1MOA accuracy and printed nice round symmetrical holes.

Another example; some of the longest military sniper kills, the bullets were subsonic.

Maybe just me, but I do not see the need to fuse over it like some do. And have seen how "speed" can deplete accuracy often enough at basically any distance. Will agree we need adequate ballistics to make the trip for ELR, but I won't concern myself at all if the bullet is at subsonic speeds getting there.

Just my 2-Cents
Donovan

Lets change that to "nothing that WE will shoot will be affected by the transition". But, you must remember back in 2008 at Harris (my first year).....someone was trying to shoot the 168 SMK out of a 308 and NONE of them made a safe trip....they ALL went through the target sidways (if they hit at all) and went subsonic between 800 and 900. He fixed the problem by switching over to the 210 Berger.

Just thinking out loud, of course, but, I never have had a true "hotrod"......the 300 Wby is about as close as I have come. Just figured I would try it once!!

Thanks,
Tod

 

[4xforfun]

150 SMK's at 3025 in my PRC.

Wouldn't that have the same body as a Rum, WSM or Nostler case?

 

[dmoran]

Tod -
Yes, should have wrote: long high BC bullets or a more detailed definition to the bullet types.
The 168-SMK is a proven exception, as you state (and many others have as well). But it also doesn't profile to well as a LR bullet in comparison either.
Donovan

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Edited later:

Watch some of the "Mark & Sam" ELR video's that show how well bullets can fly subsonic:

• MarkandSam at 2414
• MarkandSam at 3026
• MarkandSam at 4384

 

[alf]

Wouldn't that have the same body as a Rum, WSM or Nostler case?

No, same diameter as any "regular" magnum case is at the belt, .532".

The others are .550" give or take.

 

[Nature Boy]

@4xforfun

Who in there right mind would want or need a 6.5-300 Weatherby. You don’t need that. No one would need that.

That’s about the best I can do. So, when are you getting it?

 

[4xforfun]

@4xforfun

Who in there right mind would want or need a 6.5-300 Weatherby. You don’t need that. No one would need that.

That’s about the best I can do. So, when are you getting it?

The perfect response givin today's climate!!

Didn't work, though!!

 

[steve123]

Yeah, you'll be chasing the throat almost as fast as the speed of light in a 6.5 Weatherby.

Plus bullets will come apart when the barrel gets all cracked which won't be long.

6.5 Saum, it's fast enough and with a 7.5 twist and 147's it ought to do fine in the wind and get decent barrel life with H1000 at 55,000 psi.

28 Nosler won't get great barrel life but a .8BC bullet at 3000 fps won't be no slouch.

Sorry to quote myself but I forgot about these examples till just a minute ago!!!

A couple local guys built 6.5-257W's. Both had torched barrels inside of 600 rounds. The result was bullets blowing up and of course poor accuracy. After having problems with some of the bullets they tried they found one type that held up better than the others, but again, that was short lived too.

I had problems with 140 gr hybrids at 3275 fps, a few wouldn't make it to the target, at 3175 fps they were fine.

I built a 20x47L one time, that barrel wouldn't shoot 55 grainers without bullets coming apart by 300 rounds.

Seeing a pattern here???

 

[4xforfun]

I don't leave these pages much...it's either here or LR Hunting.com. Been doing a little research on the "online" on this subject and I remembered WHY I rarely leave this websight!! Reading about a guy shooting the 7mm 150 NBT out of a 280 AI and was getting blown "over 6 feet" at 300 yards. I think he forgot about the part where he dropped his gun out of a moving truck and forgot to re-check his zero!!!

Nobody called him on it, or , he shoots in 150 MPH winds!!!

STAY HERE, PEOPLE....IT'S A CRAZY WORLD OUT THERE!!!!!

 

[CT10ring]

"guy shooting the 7mm 150 NBT out of a 280 AI and was getting blown "over 6 feet" at 300 yards."

Could have been shooting in Wyoming - on a "windy" day. Has there ever been a calm day in WY, SD, ND? Maybe HE was getting blown over 6 feet. I'll leave it at that.

 

[pirate ammo]

just what was in that coke can