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[Prose]

My dad measures the jam length and backs off 30 thousandths. Swears by it. About every time I disregard his advice and do it the hard way I end up about 30 thousandths of the jam about twenty loads later. This is for factory type chambers, not for BR or PRS guns.

 

[fguffey]

Again, I bid on and won an auction for a rifle that was described as 'the ugliest'. The barrel was bedded to the stock top, sides and bottom with part of the receiver meaning it was one piece. I made the bid for the sum of the parts., After I took it to the rang I changed my mind, I left the rifle the way I found it, ugly but accurate.

F. Guffey

 

[Barlow]

Luck! Barlow

 

[fguffey]

Luck! Barlow

Forums were having a field day, I suggested no one could build a rifle that ugly without knowing what they were doing.

F. Guffey

 

[Barlow]

Forums were having a field day, I suggested no one could build a rifle that ugly without knowing what they were doing.

F. Guffey

I was referring to the op. Barlow

 

[fguffey]

I was referring to the op. Barlow

Not a problem for me, the completely stocked barreled/receiver was the recoil lug.

F. Guffey

 

[dmoran]

Not a problem for me, the completely stocked barreled/receiver was the recoil lug.

F. Guffey

@fguffey
There are reasons your rifle you call "ugly" will never shoot to the potential of so many reloaders rifles do.You and the other Case Formers struggle and get mad on the internet because you can't comprehend how bad forming cases down from larger cases wrecks accuracy potential. Reloaders understand this, but not Case Formers (aka: case wreckers). Will get back here, but need to get to the FP-springs aspect as well:

We understand that "killer firing pin springs" sounds cool to you Case Formers (aka: case wreckers). Again reloaders understand this as well as do the mfg. No-one sells or makes "killer firing pin springs" or measure in "killers". Reloaders understand how to measure FP-springs. If Case Formers weren't so confused to measure there springs. they could have a chance to understand accuracy levels in there rifles named "ugly".
Similar to how you also do not comprehend case headspace, nor how to measure it. So instead of understanding or trying to learn, once again Case Formers (aka: case wreckers) select words they think sound cool instead of actual measurements . Case Formers say they want "air" around there case. Then when a reloader tries to help them or asks them for a measurement, they get all pissy and can't stay on topic or they say they like lots of "clean air", because once again they do not comprehend how to measure and struggle with easy instructions and guidance, and select words they think sound cool to offset there own stupidities. In which is so often fallowed by rant and rave or off topic cover-up.

Back to more on the reasons why your "ugly" will never shoot to the potential reloader's rifles can; Neck tension and controlling your necks is another aspect that you are confused and get all mad at on the internet forums and do not comprehend how to measure. Better stop here for now, because you Case Wreckers will need to get mad and rant and rave for a while before we can continue on to accurate shooting rifles.
And since You are so frequently the only one.....

 

[fguffey]

After I took it to the rang I changed my mind, I left the rifle the way I found it, ugly but accurate.

I lefter-er the way I found-er; that is called the 'leaver policy. There is nothing suspect about the rifle, I went to the range with 120 rounds loaded with 12 different loads and 12 different cases from new, once fired, formed from 280 Remington, 270 cases, once fired, military/never fired to once fired etc. and different dates and brands; meaning after tumbling and sorting by head stamps all the cases were back to where they were before I loaded them. There were no flyers and improving on the accuracy would be all but impossible. Again, I suggested the builder of the ugly rifle knew more about building rifles for accuracy than all of the critics on the Internet. I was concerned all of the bashing of the builder was going to drive the bid up.

The rifle reminded me of the old days when racing cars, loosing the race meant the looser lost his car. I understand that makes no sense to you compulsive laughers but when loosing the race meant you could loose your car the builder had to consider it would be better to build a cheap car. A friend built one fast car, he lost it because he built it with two standard transmissions; the rear one was a 'turn around'; problem he did not have enough powder to overcome the drop in in ratio. Again, I will explain that one to the compulsive laughers; he did not have enough time to get the speed high enough because the marked distance was too short. He had the fastest car but run out of time.

F. Guffey

 

[dmoran]

^^^ there is more rant and rave... and it's killer !.!.! - (quoting and replying to himself)

 

[ireload2]

I am laughing at your powder burning transmission not having enough distance.....

I lefter-er the way I found-er; that is called the 'leaver policy. There is nothing suspect about the rifle, I went to the range with 120 rounds loaded with 12 different loads and 12 different cases from new, once fired, formed from 280 Remington, 270 cases, once fired, military/never fired to once fired etc. and different dates and brands; meaning after tumbling and sorting by head stamps all the cases were back to where they were before I loaded them. There were no flyers and improving on the accuracy would be all but impossible. Again, I suggested the builder of the ugly rifle knew more about building rifles for accuracy than all of the critics on the Internet. I was concerned all of the bashing of the builder was going to drive the bid up.

The rifle reminded me of the old days when racing cars, loosing the race meant the looser lost his car. I understand that makes no sense to you compulsive laughers but when loosing the race meant you could loose your car the builder had to consider it would be better to build a cheap car. A friend built one fast car, he lost it because he built it with two standard transmissions; the rear one was a 'turn around'; problem he did not have enough powder to overcome the drop in in ratio. Again, I will explain that one to the compulsive laughers; he did not have enough time to get the speed high enough because the marked distance was too short. He had the fastest car but run out of time.

F. Guffey

 

[expiper]

I am laughing at your powder burning transmission not having enough distance.....

I think a stick of dynamite would cure all the problems with the race car and neck tension ...Roger

 

[gotcha]

I think a stick of dynamite would cure all the problems with the race car and neck tension ...Roger

UH OOH !!, ....... sounds like F.Goofy is off his meds again.

 

[fguffey]

I think a stick of dynamite would cure all the problems with the race car and neck tension ...Roger

Roger, 'problems with race cars and neck tension'; I have no infraction with neck tension, one more time; I have no way to measure tensions, I have tension gages, all of my tension gages are marked off in deflection or pounds, last Sunday I went to look at equipment designed to bore holes for interference/crush fit. No where in the instructions can I find anything about tension fit. To make life easier I have used hydraulic presses when fitting crush/interference fit, I have also used sledge hammers. When it comes to hold I want all the hold I can get.

F. Guffey