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The early 17 remingtons also has a iron coated stainless barrel that was blued.
6-digit SN 700
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butchlambert
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You're saying 7 rem mag. I presume?
The Marine Sniper rifle was built on a 40X. The M24 Sniper rifle was built on a 700 long action.
Yes sir 7 mm Remington magnum, sporter , stainless, with a stripper clip cut out in the top rear of the action . To my knowledge it was factory original. One would assume that when checking with Remington on year of manufacture I would have found out otherwise.
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Dale, what did they ask of you to date your rifle? How were they able to date it?
Thanks
6 digit clip slotted action... (edited to add this is a factory "clip slot" not a USMC spec clip slot).
Edit...Dans40x corrected my terminology and this would properly be called a broached action. I have always heard them being referred to as factory clip slotted; meaning the cuts would have to be made in order for the stripper clip to work.
September 1964
Edit...Dans40x corrected my terminology and this would properly be called a broached action. I have always heard them being referred to as factory clip slotted; meaning the cuts would have to be made in order for the stripper clip to work.
September 1964
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XTR
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There is a whole thread on what is correct to make a replica M40 or M40 a1 over on Snipers Hide.
If the serial number is in the correct range someone there may be willing to cough up a few extra $$ for it to build a clone. There are people out there who are willing to go to great lengths to make them. (and last time I looked willing to fork over north of 10K for a correct Unertl to complete the build)
If the serial number is in the correct range someone there may be willing to cough up a few extra $$ for it to build a clone. There are people out there who are willing to go to great lengths to make them. (and last time I looked willing to fork over north of 10K for a correct Unertl to complete the build)
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The M24 sniper rifles used a special 10X made by Leupold.
the real value is in the USMC version of the replica's
I too have a six digit like the one described. Also have a 40 repeater with the slot. Worth more, who knows? Shoot good? You better believe it? One has a 22 br custom barrel and the other is wearing a factory 26 in pull in 22/250 at the present. Both are smooth as glass!
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Just remember the M40 and variants are made on a 40X short action. That narrows it down on what a fake could be made of. I had much rather build a truly accurate rifle rather than having a fake.
The cereal number. I volunteered the caliber and heard nothing to the contrary.
The rear bridge cutout was discontinued on the 700 sometime after 195,XXX? A local guy has a 199,XXX that does not have the rear bridge cut out! Some of the first test M40's were probably built on 40-X and also some 700 marked receivers in the 168,XXX range. There were 700 rifles(550 with mounted Redfield 3x9 greenies and 150 rifles only) shipped to the Corps from June till end of Aug of '66 according to Senich's 'The Long-Range War, Sniping in Vietnam'. A few under 200,XXX but the bulk in the 211-212,XXX and 221,XXX serial number range. All marked 700, never seen a pic of an M40 marked as '40-X' on receiver. Not that there might not be a handfull but I have never seen a pic nor read of such. Edit to add that the Corps has experimented with some 40-X's with suppressors and what have you but they are so marked and are not M40's!
I measured a 44,XXX 40-X receiver I have and also 2 early 700's in the 10X,XXX range and the early receiver cutout could be machined to a "clip slot" but they ARE NOT a clip slot per say like on a 40-X repeater or what the USMC M40's utilized on the first run of M40's. I have one C prefix that has rear bridge drilled on left side. It is a Varmint Special 222 that also has sight block on end of barrel so probably not factory as son selling father's estate stated he built it for silhouette shooting? The other 2 C prefix I currently own are not drilled and tapped on left of rear bridge. Never seen another C prefix drilled/tapped. From what I have owned and seen every 700 from '62 through 7 digits, A & B prefix are drilled and tapped on left rear bridge.
If anyone wishes to argue about the USMC M40 then go here
http://www.m40rifle.com/
or read Peter Senich's books "The Long-Range War" or "The One Round War"? which all will give you mostly correct facts or at least an idea if you are right, wrong or completely full of it. lol
Perhaps someone feels a certain serial number or range might be worth more to them or such but it will never be a USMC M40 so if they can or want to somehow justify a higher price it is their choice. The serial number range sure won't make it shoot better or make it something it never was nor will be. Unless you have a rifle with documents that it is an M40 for and from the Corps it IS NOT an M40, only a copy similar to those contracted by the Corps. You can use copy, clone, tribute, replica or moonbeam but,.....well, hopefully you get it?
Just my worthless 2 cent contribution to the argument that I won't argue about.
Edit to add and clarify some of what I had posted previously. If there ever was an M40 made for the Corps or by the Corps with a 40-X receiver I would sure like to see a pic of such. Sennich's books show numerous 700 marked M40 rifles but NOT ONE 40-X marked rifle. Marty @ Badger I am sure would know if there ever was such a unicorn? Remember, Remington built all 'original' M40 rifles for USMC. Don't know if they or USMC rebarreled any or what. The M40A1 now was a different animal that utilized serviceable M40 receivers. Many great things can be found on the net including sooooo much BS and misinformation. Not many left who where around from start to finish of the M40 so fact is a lot harder to find then fiction nowdays.
Respectfully,
Dennis
PS-Apologize for spelling etc., stroke apparently will never get better.
I measured a 44,XXX 40-X receiver I have and also 2 early 700's in the 10X,XXX range and the early receiver cutout could be machined to a "clip slot" but they ARE NOT a clip slot per say like on a 40-X repeater or what the USMC M40's utilized on the first run of M40's. I have one C prefix that has rear bridge drilled on left side. It is a Varmint Special 222 that also has sight block on end of barrel so probably not factory as son selling father's estate stated he built it for silhouette shooting? The other 2 C prefix I currently own are not drilled and tapped on left of rear bridge. Never seen another C prefix drilled/tapped. From what I have owned and seen every 700 from '62 through 7 digits, A & B prefix are drilled and tapped on left rear bridge.
If anyone wishes to argue about the USMC M40 then go here
http://www.m40rifle.com/
or read Peter Senich's books "The Long-Range War" or "The One Round War"? which all will give you mostly correct facts or at least an idea if you are right, wrong or completely full of it. lol
Perhaps someone feels a certain serial number or range might be worth more to them or such but it will never be a USMC M40 so if they can or want to somehow justify a higher price it is their choice. The serial number range sure won't make it shoot better or make it something it never was nor will be. Unless you have a rifle with documents that it is an M40 for and from the Corps it IS NOT an M40, only a copy similar to those contracted by the Corps. You can use copy, clone, tribute, replica or moonbeam but,.....well, hopefully you get it?
Just my worthless 2 cent contribution to the argument that I won't argue about.
Edit to add and clarify some of what I had posted previously. If there ever was an M40 made for the Corps or by the Corps with a 40-X receiver I would sure like to see a pic of such. Sennich's books show numerous 700 marked M40 rifles but NOT ONE 40-X marked rifle. Marty @ Badger I am sure would know if there ever was such a unicorn? Remember, Remington built all 'original' M40 rifles for USMC. Don't know if they or USMC rebarreled any or what. The M40A1 now was a different animal that utilized serviceable M40 receivers. Many great things can be found on the net including sooooo much BS and misinformation. Not many left who where around from start to finish of the M40 so fact is a lot harder to find then fiction nowdays.
Respectfully,
Dennis
PS-Apologize for spelling etc., stroke apparently will never get better.
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You can call Remington's help desk at 1-800-243-9700 or go to the website and click on contact us , give your information then type in what you are wanting and the cereal number and they will get back to you, if the firearm in question does not have a number, give the barrel markings or the proof markings on the receiver. You use to be Abel to upload a file i.e. Picture but I am not sure if you can now or not.
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The rear bridge cutout was discontinued on the 700 sometime after 195,XXX? A local guy has a 199,XXX that does not have the rear bridge cut out! Some of the first test M40's were probably built on 40-X and also receivers in the 168,XXX. There were 700 rifles shipped to the Corps from June till end of Aug of '66 according to Senich's 'The Long-Range War, Sniping in Vietnam'. A few under 200,XXX but the bulk in the 211-212,XXX and 221,XXX serial number range. All marked 700, never seen a pic of an M40 marked as '40-X' on receiver. Not that there might not be a handfull but I have never seen a pic nor read of such.
I measured a 44,XXX 40-X receiver I have and also 2 early 700's in the 10X,XXX range and the early receiver cutout could be machined to a "clip slot" but they ARE NOT a clip slot per say like on a 40-X repeater or what the USMC M40's utilized on the first run. I have one C prefix that has rear bridge drilled on left side. It is a Varmint Special 222 that also has sight block on end of barrel so probably not factory as son selling father's estate stated he built it for silhouette shooting? The other 2 C prefix I currently own are not drilled and tapped on left of rear bridge. Never seen another C prefix drilled/tapped. Have seen and owned B's and earlier that are.
If anyone wishes to argue about the USMC M40 then go here
http://www.m40rifle.com/
or read Peter Senich's books "The Long-Range War" or "The One Round War"? which all will give you mostly correct facts or at least an idea if you are right, wrong or completely full of it. lol
Perhaps someone feels a certain serial number or range might be worth more to them or such but it will never be a USMC M40 so if they can or want to somehow justify a higher price it is their choice. The serial number range sure won't make it shoot better or make it something it never was nor will be. Unless you have a rifle with documents that it is an M40 for and from the Corps it IS NOT an M40, only a copy similar to those contracted by the Corps. You can use copy, clone, tribute, replica or moonbeam but,.....well, hopefully you get it?
Just my worthless 2 cent contribution to the argument that I won't argue about.
Respectfully,
Dennis
PS-Apologize for spelling etc., stroke apparently will never get better.
Dennis, My info came from The Remington 700 by John Lacy. John wrote this book with the help of Remington and a host of about 40 contributors. The Marine Corps sniper rifles (M40) were all 40X. Were they all marked 40X? I don't know, but they weren't marked 700. The 40X models were all short actions. The M24 Sniper rifles were built on the 700 long action.
Remember when dating the Remington 700 they were like cars. The model year starts the winter of the earlier year. Serial# is not the way to date a Remington rifle. The date code is on the barrel. 40X receivers came off the same line as the 700. Originally they hand picked them from the lot and they were roll stamped 40X.
I personally don't care to own a real or fake sniper rifle. I'm not looking to snipe anybody and if I did there better weapons for that. If I collected old rifles I might want a real one and sure wouldn't want a fake.
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I'll stick with Remington's book, thanks.
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That's OK, I'll go with Remington as THEY built them.
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