Dillon XL650 VS 1050?
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1050 is not covered by the Dillon "no BS warranty"
Oh well that makes a big difference...
As far as i can see the XL650 can crank out just as many as the 1050. I cant see a whole heck of a lot of differences that justifies the 1050... especially since its soley for handgun ammo and not any rifle..
long40shot
Gold $$ Contributor
I love my 650. I can't see the 1050 being better unless you are loading 223s using one fired mil-surprised brass.
If you only load pistol, get the Square Deal.
I loaded with a Square Deal for ten years before I bought a rifle.
It makes NO difference - the 1050's output is measured in "Tons", not rounds. They do not break. I have three, I once had eight.
Geronimo Jim
Gold $$ Contributor
A long time ago, I was going to order a 1050. I had a 550 and a 650 at the time. The guy at
Dillon talked me out of it. Basically said 1050 was build for commercial use. Change over takes
much longer. I ordered another 650 and never regretted it.
Dillon talked me out of it. Basically said 1050 was build for commercial use. Change over takes
much longer. I ordered another 650 and never regretted it.
Jdne5b
Gold $$ Contributor
Unless you are changing primer size, change over on a 1050 takes 20 mins or less and usually includes a little cleanup/maintenance.
With that many calibers, the 650 is probably your friend. The 1050 shines when you need to load lots of a few calibers. Without knowing the quantity of what you want to load, it's hard.
I've never had a 650 (had a Hornady before the 1050, it was tolerable), but I LOVE my 1050. It only gets used for 3 calibers though.
This guide should help your decision.
http://brianenos.com/pages/dillon
With that many calibers, the 650 is probably your friend. The 1050 shines when you need to load lots of a few calibers. Without knowing the quantity of what you want to load, it's hard.
I've never had a 650 (had a Hornady before the 1050, it was tolerable), but I LOVE my 1050. It only gets used for 3 calibers though.
This guide should help your decision.
http://brianenos.com/pages/dillon
Totally agree! My 650 has an additional 7 Toolheads with preset dies so switching is EXTREMELY easy and I also have two complete primer assemblies (large and small) that allow me to switch those out very fast.
Jim , you still use your Dillon to load your benchrest ammo on right ?
I have a 550 and a 650 with case feeder. I use the 550 for general <250 qty ammo. The 650 gets all high volume pistol cartridges plus .223 and .308 loadings. I have seen the 1050 in operation and changing calibers takes considerably longer and more expense per caliber. Top notch presses. I once owned a 650 just dedicated to a single caliber.
Generally speaking, my preference is for cheaper presses, like the Square Deal, that are dedicated to one caliber. I don't like to change calibers on the Square Deal or the 650. I've never owned a 1050, and can't speak to that.
An exception to the dedicated press principle is something like the T-7, which can live with two calibers mounted on it.
An exception to the dedicated press principle is something like the T-7, which can live with two calibers mounted on it.
Loading this many pistol cartridges you would be better served by the 650. Caliber conversions are cheaper and take less time than the 1050.
I have owned and used all of Dillon's presses quite extensively, all I have left now are 2 1050's and a 650. The 1 year warranty of the 1050 shouldn't be a deal breaker. They simply don't break that often. Buy a spare parts kit and you are GTG. Once you get a 1050 dialed in they are great machines for brass prep and loading. In most situations priming on the downstroke and swaging aren't worth the additional 1k over the 650.
It is for 1 year.
Hoser
Gold $$ Contributor
I own three 1050s and about 9 different calibers. I got my first 1050 in 1998.
Changing calibers takes about 5 minutes. Add in another 5 minutes if you change primer sizes.
I load 9, 40, 45, 223 and 308 which sometimes have crimped in primers. The 1050 takes care of the crimp every time so none of them slip through the cracks.
After who knows how many rounds through those machines, I have yet to need Dillons warranty. I broke one part and it was totally my fault. I gladly paid for the replacement part.
With a Mr Bulletfeeder I can easily load over 2,000 rounds an hour, without the bulletfeeder about 1,200. And I don't even feel like I am rushing.
The 1050 primes on the downstroke so it is almost impossible to get a high primer. If you are shooting striker fired pistols or reeves with light triggers that is a huge concern.
The 1050 comes with a casefeeder and dies. With a 650 both of those are extra.
I don't know of anyone that has downgraded from a 1050 to a 650 but I know a lot of people that have gone from the 650 to the 1050.
Changing calibers takes about 5 minutes. Add in another 5 minutes if you change primer sizes.
I load 9, 40, 45, 223 and 308 which sometimes have crimped in primers. The 1050 takes care of the crimp every time so none of them slip through the cracks.
After who knows how many rounds through those machines, I have yet to need Dillons warranty. I broke one part and it was totally my fault. I gladly paid for the replacement part.
With a Mr Bulletfeeder I can easily load over 2,000 rounds an hour, without the bulletfeeder about 1,200. And I don't even feel like I am rushing.
The 1050 primes on the downstroke so it is almost impossible to get a high primer. If you are shooting striker fired pistols or reeves with light triggers that is a huge concern.
The 1050 comes with a casefeeder and dies. With a 650 both of those are extra.
I don't know of anyone that has downgraded from a 1050 to a 650 but I know a lot of people that have gone from the 650 to the 1050.
Holy crap Hoser!! You may have an addiction!! I jest of course! WOW beautiful setup/ups! Simply impressive!I own three 1050s and about 9 different calibers. I got my first 1050 in 1998.
Changing calibers takes about 5 minutes. Add in another 5 minutes if you change primer sizes.
I load 9, 40, 45, 223 and 308 which sometimes have crimped in primers. The 1050 takes care of the crimp every time so none of them slip through the cracks.
After who knows how many rounds through those machines, I have yet to need Dillons warranty. I broke one part and it was totally my fault. I gladly paid for the replacement part.
With a Mr Bulletfeeder I can easily load over 2,000 rounds an hour, without the bulletfeeder about 1,200. And I don't even feel like I am rushing.
The 1050 primes on the downstroke so it is almost impossible to get a high primer. If you are shooting striker fired pistols or reeves with light triggers that is a huge concern.
The 1050 comes with a casefeeder and dies. With a 650 both of those are extra.
I don't know of anyone that has downgraded from a 1050 to a 650 but I know a lot of people that have gone from the 650 to the 1050.
Well my wife approved, im getting the 650 for my xmas gift this year! From what yall have said, what ive read, and youtube videos i think the 650 fully set up will do me well. I tend to load 500-1000 rounds at a time so this will just make real cadillac style for me. And i dont need a swaging station and such... my rifle stuff is totally separate.
All i can say is its going to make one hell of a difference vs loading handgun rounds on a single stage rifle press lol!!
All i can say is its going to make one hell of a difference vs loading handgun rounds on a single stage rifle press lol!!
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