Under Armor drops sponsership

[Milo 2.0]

I see a lot of this here ....

Thanks to those that got the point. We have to stick together. Those that don't we can leave the buzzards to pick at.
snert's post bears merit, I am new here and brought up a controversial subject apparently. Other forums have been very supportive. I am surprised at the amount of " whatever" attitude to this subject. As I said before, I have concessions about the fellow posting without checking first, but I have been in that " we support you, until...." corporate environment. I chose to leave it, make less money, have no benefits and lower my BP by 30 points.
Hope those of you that don't give a crap remember this post when you can't hunt the King's game.
At some point, we will all be poachers.

You know rebel without a clue, you crossed a line with your elementary pic. Not sure how this incident has anything to do with hunting or gun rights. As for anti's, I'm putting my money on the hunting tv shows you cherish are at the forefront of their disdain. Like one guy said, out of sight, out of mind, let them pick data from F&W orgs, not watch it on tv, or you tube, blah, blah, blah.
As far as your kings game, what are you doing to stave off the decimation of elk herds out west with the introduction of an invasive species of wolves? Not being able to hunt out here will be the result of no game, not because a lack of solidarity. Pick your battles, this one not worth fighting.
I actually felt bad that I invaded your misguided post, now, not so.
And one more thing, I gut full of paying more for products because clowns like this are on a companies payroll.

 

[IdahoSharpshooter]

Moot point for me, I've never owned anything by underarmor to date.

 

[people]

Hope those of you that don't give a crap remember this post when you can't hunt the King's game.
At some point, we will all be poachers.

Poached deer tastes better. Just kidding.

This is a goal of the anti gun groups. They keep trying to tie hunting to firearms control. I am sure we all heard it "You don't need a 30 round clip to hunt deer." Well who the hell are they to tell me how I can or cannot hunt?

I do not know what the root cause for all this infighting is but I do know punishing the many because of the few is never a good plan. Granted the Fudds love it.

 

[rebel]

You know rebel without a clue, you crossed a line with your elementary pic. Not sure how this incident has anything to do with hunting or gun rights. As for anti's, I'm putting my money on the hunting tv shows you cherish are at the forefront of their disdain. Like one guy said, out of sight, out of mind, let them pick data from F&W orgs, not watch it on tv, or you tube, blah, blah, blah.
As far as your kings game, what are you doing to stave off the decimation of elk herds out west with the introduction of an invasive species of wolves? Not being able to hunt out here will be the result of no game, not because a lack of solidarity. Pick your battles, this one not worth fighting.
I actually felt bad that I invaded your misguided post, now, not so.
And one more thing, I gut full of paying more for products because clowns like this are on a companies payroll.

Oh I have more than a clue milo.
I am member of a club here locally that has a range, trap, skeet and sporting clays. We support kids getting into conservation/hunting.We hold events on Hunting and Fishing day,have events for the Scouts, youth shooting teams in the area have access. I will spend the next month organizing a 100 yard 22 egg shoot for children ages 6 - 16 on Hunting and Fishing day.
As far as your elk, the actions of folks responsible for the introduction of the wolves should be shown my "elementry" pic. I feel for you guys but have my hands full with our own problems. Our national forests here have turned into wildlife deserts. Lack of logging that promoted new growth have decimated our ruffed grouse population. Deer have no cover or food, but the coyotes and turkeys seem to be doing ok.
Our wildlife commision have introduced red wolves here in NC and made hunting coyotes illegal in 5 counties down east for fear that an animal that has been selected for extinction by crossbreeding, might get shot. Our quail population is practically gone because of farming practices and it seems that our WLC sole purpose is have our deer population reduced to near zip.
I go to the yearly meetings and give them and their goofy biologists hell. So I'm active in promoting and defending our hunting heritage, albeit within my area. In that we find common ground. My head up the butt pic was more because the thread had been derailed into a " why should we care about this jerk losing sponsorship" discussion by you and a few more when the intent was to initiate a discussion about how PC attitudes in this society can effect the hunting community.You and JRS have brought up legitamate points about the hunter's actions, but by your quote above you sound as you are as concerned about hunting and how it is percieved as I, so surely you get my point from my OP.
My "elementry" pic was not directed at you personally, but more as how I and apparently others feel our community handles problems such as this. If you felt that it was then perhaps you should give me the benefit of the doubt. Note that you have resorted to name calling, and I have done nothing but discuss the issue from my viewpoint.
Milo, I am most sure we share more in common than you think, so in the future if you disagree with something I post, feel free to add your point as that's what a forum is all about. Who knows, I may say something you agree with at least once.

 

[Milo 2.0]

Oh I have more than a clue milo.
I am member of a club here locally that has a range, trap, skeet and sporting clays. We support kids getting into conservation/hunting.We hold events on Hunting and Fishing day,have events for the Scouts, youth shooting teams in the area have access. I will spend the next month organizing a 100 yard 22 egg shoot for children ages 6 - 16 on Hunting and Fishing day.
As far as your elk, the actions of folks responsible for the introduction of the wolves should be shown my "elementry" pic. I feel for you guys but have my hands full with our own problems. Our national forests here have turned into wildlife deserts. Lack of logging that promoted new growth have decimated our ruffed grouse population. Deer have no cover or food, but the coyotes and turkeys seem to be doing ok.
Our wildlife commision have introduced red wolves here in NC and made hunting coyotes illegal in 5 counties down east for fear that an animal that has been selected for extinction by crossbreeding, might get shot. Our quail population is practically gone because of farming practices and it seems that our WLC sole purpose is have our deer population reduced to near zip.
I go to the yearly meetings and give them and their goofy biologists hell. So I'm active in promoting and defending our hunting heritage, albeit within my area. In that we find common ground. My head up the butt pic was more because the thread had been derailed into a " why should we care about this jerk losing sponsorship" discussion by you and a few more when the intent was to initiate a discussion about how PC attitudes in this society can effect the hunting community.You and JRS have brought up legitamate points about the hunter's actions, but by your quote above you sound as you are as concerned about hunting and how it is percieved as I, so surely you get my point from my OP.
My "elementry" pic was not directed at you personally, but more as how I and apparently others feel our community handles problems such as this. If you felt that it was then perhaps you should give me the benefit of the doubt. Note that you have resorted to name calling, and I have done nothing but discuss the issue from my viewpoint.
Milo, I am most sure we share more in common than you think, so in the future if you disagree with something I post, feel free to add your point as that's what a forum is all about. Who knows, I may say something you agree with at least once.

OK, ^^^that's the wisest post you've made as of today. You may be right that we share common ground.
I do think hunters are they're own worst enemy today, with you tube and facebook. Nothing is private or sacred. I think the bulk of the people have a live and let live philosophy in life, but when it's thrust upon them by modern forms of communication, again FB, emails, texts, it's easy to link to anything these days.
Hunters have been and always will be at forefront of conservation(if allowed today). But as anything in life, 98% of a group can be a role model, doesn't matter, the remaining 2% are going to grab the headlines. I didn't watch the clip of the hunt, all I said was do stupid crap, pay the price. Historically I've been held accountable for my actions. So, IMO, letting this vid get out was not the smartest move.
And again, I still don't relate a sponsorship loss as a threat to my hunting rights.

 

[rebel]

As far as widom goes, I think some got the point and others didn't. Completely agree with the whole facebook, youtube thing. I still think it's ironic the UA had sponsored the dudes wife to hunt and act enthusiastic after a kill every time. I could care less what he killed the bear with, it was recovered about 50-60 yards away so it expired rather quickly.
It was just the point that in this day and age, a small group can have a big voice. Again, I think it could have ramifications in the future due to this small success on their part. That was my issue. Without the inflection of voice, I found it difficult to make the point clear. In any case, opinions are like rear ends, everyone has one and most of them stink - you usually just don't smell your own
Good point about hunters being there own worst enemy milo, that is so very true.

 

[people]

If we could get together we would have overwhelming power. California would get rights back and for the rest of us. Just imagine being able to buy a gun muffler at WalMart or where ever. I know I would buy a m249.

 

[Milo 2.0]

With this I'm done, perception is everything, and those of us who failed to grasp this may actually just be sick of putting out fires?

 

[rifleman700]

This thread shows the problem we have in society right now. Those that don't care what happened here are ignorant and shortsighted. When will it matter to you???? When they come to your house and take away your firearms? When they come to your shooting range and close it down? When they outlaw hunting and shooting sports? And what will you be doing when this happens? You will be asking where your support is from your fellow sportsman. You can't have it both ways.

Now for those who call into question his competence, have you read the article? He is a former Division 1 Javelin thrower so I think he is plenty competent. And if you read the story the bear died within 75 yards of where he stuck it. How many of you archers can make that claim? And what he did was 100% LEGAL!!! Since when do we listen to people that do not know anything about hunting and give them a soapbox? UA caved and they should feel the impact of that decision. Did Crossfit flinch when people protested them for giving Glock handguns to the winners - NOPE!! UA should have done the same and they could have used this in a way to increase their brand.

I have friends that are in the outfitting and guiding business and the number one complaint they have is that half of their clients are not as competent as they say they are. One friend who guides in AZ says he now makes both archery and rifle hunters shoot before the hunt so he can determine their competence. It is hunters like this that will just give the anti's all the more reason to come after us all. So when someone is competent I will stand up and have their back every time. Every archer nowadays claims to be able to shoot accurately to 100 yds and every rifle hunter 1000 yds when they are more likely to have skills a third of that. It is important that we stress responsibility with this right we call hunting every chance we get.

And who started this all? Ricky Gervais. I am not even sure he is even American so why the hell is anyone listening to him? No offense to our foreign forum members here but our politics and rights is no place for a scum bag like him. If you live here and vote here, have at it. If not, shut the hell up. This has now emboldened the anti's and you will now see them building on this and taking it as far as they can. What are you willing to do to stop them?? Oh, that's right your too cool and it doesn't concern you that somebody lost their sponsorship. I would be willing to bet that most all of you would love to have free UA gear whether you admit it or not.

As for me, I will no longer give UA a dime of my money and I will support this hunter and his wife even though I do not watch their show. Its a matter of PRINCIPLE and that is obviously foreign to some of you. So my advice is to grow a pair and try doing something for someone else in our shooting/hunting community. You may need their help in return someday.

 

[JRS]

They didn't care about the free clothing UA provided. They did something stupid, and lost the UA paycheck they were accustomed to. They'll have to go out and find a job now That's why they are upset.

 

[1shot]

They didn't care about the free clothing UA provided. They did something stupid, and lost the UA paycheck they were accustomed to. They'll have to go out and find a job now That's why they are upset.

And you know this how?
Are they friends of yours or did you intuitive it?

 

[rifleman700]

They didn't care about the free clothing UA provided. They did something stupid, and lost the UA paycheck they were accustomed to. They'll have to go out and find a job now That's why they are upset.

They only received clothing, nothing else - no money. Try getting the facts straight. And what did they do stupid??? Post a video of a game kill??? How many others do this?? They are all over youtube and no it doesn't matter that it was a spear. Spears are used to kill game in other parts of the world - TODAY. Look it up.

 

[JRS]

They only received clothing, nothing else - no money. Try getting the facts straight. And what did they do stupid??? Post a video of a game kill??? How many others do this?? They are all over youtube and no it doesn't matter that it was a spear. Spears are used to kill game in other parts of the world - TODAY. Look it up.

Go to the UA Facebook. She received an undisclosed amount of money under the contract, just as most contract amounts are undisclosed. Much like the endorsement contract UA signed Bryce Harper to this year. The largest in the history of MLB, for an undisclosed amount. The stupid part was posting the video which clearly shows the spear going into the bear's stomach, then celebrating like a fool. There was certainly nothing clean (gut shot) about the kill, and none of us really know how far that bear actually ran after running into a tree and dislodging the spear, until it finally died. It's quite possible, the bear suffered for hours before it died. Then to top it off, they left the bear on the ground overnight rather than try to find it after the kill. That's a slob, not a hunter. Can't walk 180 feet to recover the animal he wounded? Or did it actually run for hundreds of yards before it died? They came back the next morning to find it, and loaded it in a truck By that time, the meat was completely spoiled. I don't video tape kills, very seldom do I photograph kills, and certainly wouldn't post them for the world to see. Doing so is simply asking for backlash. Will you boycott Alberta Canada also? The kill was disgusting enough to them that they have banned the use of spears for hunting after watching the video, along with realizing they didn't attempt to recover the bear until the next day. That wasn't hunting as we know it. It was nothing more than bragging rights for a kill. The Bowmar's quickly removed the video after realizing the damage they created to themselves, and the hunting community as a whole. However, the video was copied and remains in place. It appears their fitness business has taken a big negative hit. They traded a sponsorship for bragging rights, along with the loss of that sponsorship money and free clothing.

 

[Milo 2.0]

They only received clothing, nothing else - no money. Try getting the facts straight. And what did they do stupid??? Post a video of a game kill??? How many others do this?? They are all over youtube and no it doesn't matter that it was a spear. Spears are used to kill game in other parts of the world - TODAY. Look it up.

You called me ignorant I presume earlier. Yet right here you identify the problem, the sensationalism of the kill, posted on FB, you tube, etc.. for all the world to see. The very atmosphere you seem to cherish is now biting your ass and you expect me to help extinguish the fire.
This somewhat relates to sexual harassment training, what would a reasonable minded person think, talking non hunters but not against hunting. People like this do more damage in 3 minutes than the average good hunter will in a lifetime.
Go ahead, strap your ar 15 to your back and walk downtown in a big city exercising your right to own a gun, alienate some more on our side of the fence people.
You are a clown, and don't ever question my resolve when it comes to gun rights, you have no clue.

 

[Milo 2.0]

I know the answer, the internet, but what ever happened to the tradition or ritual of hunting with friends and family, taking pics and sharing them. Even email was private enough for this.
Enter the hold my beer and watch this crowd seem to think posting on their public FB page, or better yet uploading to you tube is going to end well for the good. Once on the web, you're no longer the sole proprietor of anything.
Then throw in the wannabe's that envy the tv show hunters.
Hunters have created their own mess and need to back out of it w/o finger pointing, the anti movement gets smarter year to year and hunters can't keep up with them, yet continue to hand them ammo to use against us.

 

[Milo 2.0]

Here's a douche filming his own doucheness with a go pro. And we wonder why?

http://griffinsguide.com/content/20..._medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FacebookHunting

 

[FatBoy]

I get the larger picture this thread has evolved into. Ultimately, I do not like that UA dropped her, but it's UAs business decision so the will do what they think is best. I hate that a small group of anti-hunter have this kind of power, as a success like this only breeds them to go further. We see this with them trying to modify range schedules in an attempt to ultimately shut them down. Creeping incrementalism.

UA sponsors a show on the outdooright channel called ridge reapers. Decent show, a lot of glossing and stalking out west. One of the UA guys, Kipp I think, spine shot a Mullie at just over 500 yards. Clearly a bad shot to anyone who knows how to read trace and how an animal responds to a hit. They aired it and went on about their business because 99% of the people out there herd bang and saw it drop. Thank God they didn't record what was likely a 200# animal flailing around for 5 minutes until it expired. How was this any better? Preception?

Between my daily cloths, workout gear and hunting gear I have thousands of dollars in UA gear. I'm not going to burn what I have, but when it's worn out I won't be buying UA again. Their inconsistency is enough to sour me on their products. Maybe I'll be able to find something made in the USA to replace it......