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Here in Michigans Upper Peninsula, there are wolves. These wolves are killing the UPs deer population dramatically. They are also killing the beagles that hunters chase snowshoes hares with while on hunting outings. Bear dogs while chasing bears for hunters are being hunted by these wolves and also killed. The DNR allowed a hunt two years ago to manage the wolves. The following spring, PETA and the rest of the tree hugging community rallied to have these wolves federally protected...AGAIN. To say you just can't shoot an animal and let it go off and is die is pretty easy to say until you've met these conditions. The only way the local people in the region can Gaurantee the deer, their livestock and dogs are safe is to put a bullet in these predators and let them run off and die. The DNR s hands are tied. The residents cannot shoot them legally unless they are about to harm a human. I used to have your mentality about not just shooting something and letting it go off and die until I've seen what these animals are doing here in Michigan. I haven't personally shot a wolf but kudos to the guys that have done it to manage that predatory killing machine. Keep in mind, wolves don't kill only to eat. We've seen a pack of wolves kill 7 deer in a logged our clear cut and only consume 2 in a two week period. The ravens and scavengers finished off the other 5. I don't know about hogs but if they are as destructive and predatory as the northern timber wolf and resources are limited for management, they need to be controlled any way necessary. I believe in humane ethical shots on Game with quick kills but this has to be the exception when no legal management is being utilized. Obviously we are talking about an extreme case of neglect on the part of our federal government. They've allowed the animal rights rejects to control any legal means of management of an otherwise manageable species.
 
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The sign idea yea that's real cute!! If you are to lazy to drag them off burn them! And don't just cook it burn it till nothing is left to eat on. I don't mean to dog you on this as it is your business not mine but I just don't believe in wounding game and that is the very type of thing that will give the anti-hunting morrons something to use against us. I don't mean anything bad towards you.[/QUOT
Hogs aren't game in Florida . They are the same as rats where you live . In one night they can turn 5 acres of pasture up to where you can't mow it . Larry
 
As I said I honestly don't mean nothing towards you. And I can understand about the amount of damage they do. And growing up on a farm as I did I sure wouldn't want to have to deal with that. We had a lot of bottom land that we grew hay and corn on. We would rotate it so they could graze on one bottom and grow crops on the others. If we had to deal with the hogs i would have killed all that i could but it would have been with kill shots not gut shots!
 
Here in Michigans Upper Peninsula, there are wolves. These wolves are killing the UPs deer population dramatically. They are also killing the beagles that hunters chase snowshoes hares with while on hunting outings. Bear dogs while chasing bears for hunters are being hunted by these wolves and also killed. The DNR allowed a hunt two years ago to manage the wolves. The following spring, PETA and the rest of the tree hugging community rallied to have these wolves federally protected...AGAIN. To say you just can't shoot an animal and let it go off and is die is pretty easy to say until you've met these conditions. The only way the local people in the region can Gaurantee the deer, their livestock and dogs are safe is to put a bullet in these predators and let them run off and die. The DNR s hands are tied. The residents cannot shoot them legally unless they are about to harm a human. I used to have your mentality about not just shooting something and letting it go off and die until I've seen what these animals are doing here in Michigan. I haven't personally shot a wolf but kudos to the guys that have done it to manage that predatory killing machine. Keep in mind, wolves don't kill only to eat. We've seen a pack of wolves kill 7 deer in a logged our clear cut and only consume 2 in a two week period. The ravens and scavengers finished off the other 5. I don't know about hogs but if they are as destructive and predatory as the northern timber wolf and resources are limited for management, they need to be controlled any way necessary. I believe in humane ethical shots on Game with quick kills but this has to be the exception when no legal management is being utilized. Obviously we are talking about an extreme case of neglect on the part of our federal government. They've allowed the animal rights rejects to control any legal means of management of an otherwise manageable species.
I keep hearing about the wolf problems and i really hate it. I cannot understand why they are so protected. That is one of the many reasons the shoot, shovel, and shut up started!!
 
As I said I honestly don't mean nothing towards you. And I can understand about the amount of damage they do. And growing up on a farm as I did I sure wouldn't want to have to deal with that. We had a lot of bottom land that we grew hay and corn on. We would rotate it so they could graze on one bottom and grow crops on the others. If we had to deal with the hogs i would have killed all that i could but it would have been with kill shots not gut shots![/
Sounds good in thought . Remember you can't leave them in the field . No way can you pick them up . So you can stop mowing and drag them as much as a half mile to get them off the field. I'm sure if you had the problem you would do the same. Larry
 
Are you dragging them onto public land? I hope not! You might consider brushing-up on your Fish and Wildlife laws in Florida.
 
Sounds like hogs are definitely an issue if hunting dogs are picking up disease to the point of putting them down. At least hog hunting is legal and if it's like the hogs here in Michigan, the season is open all yearand no bag limitations on them. Just don't have a big issue with hogs yet. Had a big boar on my game cam last year close to Christmas. They don't stick around long so they seem pretty tough to hunt.
 

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A few good hunting dogs had to be destroyed in Florida, after contracting diseases from the hogs down there. A couple of Llamas will keep everything away;)

Oh ok. I wasn't sure. That would be a bad deal. Lamas are mean and great at protecting animal herds, but they'd probably eat Larry's crops too . Of course one or two lama's is easier to feed than a hundred or so hogs.
 
Sounds like hogs are definitely an issue if hunting dogs are picking up disease to the point of putting them down. At least hog hunting is legal and if it's like the hogs here in Michigan, the season is open all yearand no bag limitations on them. Just don't have a big issue with hogs yet. Had a big boar on my game cam last year close to Christmas. They don't stick around long so they seem pretty tough to hunt.
Looks like a 200 plus lb . But he is not the problem his girlfriend 's is . Larry
 
That stump behind him is almost two foot tall. Not good at judging pigs but it looks pretty sizable. Had several pics of him but he only hung around for maybe a week. Hunted him after dark for 3 or 4 hunts but no pig. He came in for short feed periods and moved on. Never saw any other pigs on my 80 acres. Many other landowners have seen and killed hogs but that's my first sighting and only on camera. Actually glad because most locals say they run the deer off there property. I have plenty of deer so guessing I do not have hog issues... Yet.
 
That stump behind him is almost two foot tall. Not good at judging pigs but it looks pretty sizable. Had several pics of him but he only hung around for maybe a week. Hunted him after dark for 3 or 4 hunts but no pig. He came in for short feed periods and moved on. Never saw any other pigs on my 80 acres. Many other landowners have seen and killed hogs but that's my first sighting and only on camera. Actually glad because most locals say they run the deer off there property. I have plenty of deer so guessing I do not have hog issues... Yet.
I dont know what they feed on where you live. Here the eat pink root and grubs so it is not uncommon for them to root 15" deep .
Larry
 
This particular pig was eating on a deer bait pile. We had a muzzleloader hunter using corn and sugar Beets for deer. That pig was eating off that pile. I dumped a truck load of corn there but never saw him again.
 
This particular pig was eating on a deer bait pile. We had a muzzleloader hunter using corn and sugar Beets for deer. That pig was eating off that pile. I dumped a truck load of corn there but never saw him again.[/QUOTE
You must be below M 57 or you would of used a real gun. Like your feeder .
Take a 5 gallon bucket and put water and yeast in it and let it sour . They can smell several times better then a deer .
Larry
 
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Maybe if I had that big of a problem! Here in KY they just last year put in the hunting guide that wild hogs had just been spotted in western KY and all hunters were told to shoot and kill any we see. And to report all seen and or killed so they could track them . I guess we will have that problem soon enough!
 

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