foot pounds of energy

[BULLET 05]

Is their a magic number you all try to stay above when hutting ground hogs? Or do you just shoot and hope for the best??

 

[people]

I don't look for a number like they say for deer. I do like using bigger powder capacity. If only for the speed and range.

 

[snert]

somehow I think I recall 100fpnds as a benchmark.

 

[savagedasher]

Groundhogs are rodents so I feel any they die doesn't mattered feral hogs are the same. Without shooting them they will multiply to Numbers that they cause sever crop and property damage. With that in mind , we don't need to ethically . But also as hunter we don't need to show picture of them . When we do that we loose . If you show it to other hunters is cool one tree huger can take that right away, when I mowed pastures I shot over 150 feral hogs and only had to pull 20 or so off the fields all I tryed to do was gut shoot them and they would run off field and die . 233 was a perfect gun Larry

 

[Cold Bore]

With that in mind , we don't need to ethically .

...when I mowed pastures I shot over 150 feral hogs and only had to pull 20 or so off the fields all I tryed to do was gut shoot them and they would run off field and die .

we don't need to show picture of them write about intentionally gut shooting animals. When we do that we loose ..... one tree huger can take that right away,....

I don't even need to comment here, other than "one tree hugger reading this forum, and we lose"......

 

[JRS]

Don't get too caught up with the energy, or speed, needed to kill. My 540 grain arrows zipping through the air at roughly 200+ fps produce 56-58 ft. lbs. of energy. That small amount of energy can, will, and has, killed the largest and toughest animals on earth.

 

[Cold Bore]

Don't get too caught up with the energy, or speed, needed to kill. My 540 grain arrows zipping through the air at roughly 200+ fps produce 56-58 ft. lbs. of energy. That small amount of energy can, will, and has, killed the largest and toughest animals on earth.

Apples to oranges.

Bullets and broadheads kill in different ways.

 

[LHSmith]

when I mowed pastures I shot over 150 feral hogs and only had to pull 20 or so off the fields all I tryed to do was gut shoot them and they would run off field and die . 233 was a perfect gun Larry

This is classic , never mind that a wounded hog is even more dangerous to anyone who happens to be nearby.

 

[JRS]

Apples to oranges.

Bullets and broadheads kill in different ways.

Both have to penetrate, and cause loss of blood/oxygen. Sectional density plays a major role.

Edit: SD for the 30-06 with 180 grain bullet is .285
SD for a 540 grain arrow, to include a 130 grain broad head is .635

 

[savagedasher]

This is classic , never mind that a wounded hog is even more dangerous to anyone who happens to be nearby.

There is no one nearby . We don't shoot them for safety . They are killed so we can have feed for the cattle . We don't dare to let others on the property they don't know the difference of a cow or a hog . Dam shame isn't it. Larry

 

[JRS]

There is no one nearby . We don't shoot them for safety . They are killed so we can have feed for the cattle . We don't dare to let others on the property they don't know the difference of a cow or a hog . Dam shame isn't it. Larry

Why not put forth the effort for a clean kill, and donate the meat to a local organization to feed those less fortunate than you, rather than letting it rot?

 

[savagedasher]

Why not put forth the effort for a clean kill, and donate the meat to a local organization to feed those less fortunate than you, rather than letting it rot?

When you kill one you must get it out of the field or it brings coyotes . They and cattle don't mix . To care for a hog would take 3 hours . Let's say a hundred hogs would be 300 hours Time wise that I would have to spend 7 weeks taking care of hogs . So tell me would you shoot the to run off or mow weeds so your cattle can eat and you can make a living. Larry

 

[people]

Why not put forth the effort for a clean kill, and donate the meat to a local organization to feed those less fortunate than you, rather than letting it rot?

Most of the less fortunate than us are just leaches on the system. Some appreciate the "free stuff" most just get used to getting it and demand more. The "free stuff" is not free. There is time and cash associated with everything that is "free".


Everytime I have been hog hunting it is all about getting as many as you can not the one off let me brag about this head shot.

I do like collecting them as I make dog food from them.

 

[Frankr]

I have ate them..I guy I knew years back used to make like sloppy joes out of em...He called it sloppy dogs..
I did not really care for it but ate them..

 

[Frankr]

Then sometimes they are just fun to hang out with and have a beer. You don't always have to be shooting them. I'm Kidding.lol...I shot more than you can imagine sometimes I feel bad about it..But it is a for real pic..he was a pet..
They say he like Dairy Queen and he did drink that beer.

 

[LHSmith]

Pretty sure Larry was talking about feral hogs, which i believe most people say they taste better than raised hogs.

 

[hunter243sgk]

Groundhogs are rodents so I feel any they die doesn't mattered feral hogs are the same. Without shooting them they will multiply to Numbers that they cause sever crop and property damage. With that in mind , we don't need to ethically . But also as hunter we don't need to show picture of them . When we do that we loose . If you show it to other hunters is cool one tree huger can take that right away, when I mowed pastures I shot over 150 feral hogs and only had to pull 20 or so off the fields all I tryed to do was gut shoot them and they would run off field and die . 233 was a perfect gun Larry

Sorry but I do not believe in wounding game to go off to die. Shoot to kill or find other means to fix the problem. We don't have hogs here (unfortunately) and I grew up on a large farm so I do know all about feeding and taking care of livestock. I have heard how bad the hogs destroy farm land but there has to be a smarter way!

 

[savagedasher]

Sorry but I do not believe in wounding game to go off to die. Shoot to kill or find other means to fix the problem. We don't have hogs here (unfortunately) and I grew up on a large farm so I do know all about feeding and taking care of livestock. I have heard how bad the hogs destroy farm land but there has to be a smarter way!

I guess we could think like many do . We could post signs NO HOGS ALLOWED .
Or we could kill them and spend all day dragging them off the field. So far gut shooting is the best . Poison would work then we kill everything that eats the corn . I welcome your answer . Larry

 

[hunter243sgk]

The sign idea yea that's real cute!! If you are to lazy to drag them off burn them! And don't just cook it burn it till nothing is left to eat on. I don't mean to dog you on this as it is your business not mine but I just don't believe in wounding game and that is the very type of thing that will give the anti-hunting morrons something to use against us. I don't mean anything bad towards you.

 

[NC308]

Personally I don't think it matters how much energy it has when it gets there for groundhogs. I have kill LOTS with a .22 rifle. Some out to 100 yards with it. Still dead!