Why Not Savage?

Discussion in '6BR, 6BR Improved & Wildcats' started by Horseshoe108, Aug 25, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Larryh128

    Larryh128

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,868
    You can call Dean at Jard and he will answer any questions that you have about them. They are great people.
     
    Horseshoe108 likes this.
  2. Dgd6mm

    Dgd6mm Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,508
    The Savage's I shoot either have Accutrigger or Rifle Basix trigger. A couple of the accutrigger's will lose their light adjustment and trip on bolt closure. During competition (f class) this is a pain in the butt open and close bolt gently while possibly losing your shooting condition. I've had this happen I think 3 times over the dozen years or so on a couple of the Savage rifles I own. At this present time I have about 12 Savage rifles. The Rifle Basix triggers, no issues at all, properly installed and tuned they are sweet.

    I have two customs, 1 with a 2 oz. Jewell, 1 with a Trigger Tech Diamond straight trigger, both excellent triggers. The Jewell is a benchrest rifle, TT Diamond PRS rifle. I like my Savage's a lot, I'm growing fond of the Origin action with TT Diamond trigger.

    Are you shooting these matches at your local club? If so what brand of equipment are you shooting? If not a Savage, are they besting you?

    Don Dunlap
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
    Horseshoe108 likes this.
  3. Dgd6mm

    Dgd6mm Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,508
    I am a 6mm freak.
     
  4. Horseshoe108

    Horseshoe108 Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    67
    This season I am only shooting the 100-300 matches. The top gun in Factory class (which they let me shoot with an AR .224 since they don't have more than 2 AR shooters) is using a Savage 6.5 creedmoor 12 LRP...the big black ones.....actually there are about a dozen or so seen often at our range for different shoots. Savage 6 BR's often win in Hunter class for this same shoot. I am in 3rd place with my AR against all the bolt guns and have shot more X's than anyone else in the division. But I still can't beat the Savage yet in overall score :)

    Next season I have a 6 BRI Custom for 1000 yard LG. One shooter is winning some Factory shoots at 1000 yards with his Savage 6.5 creedmoor.

    The Savage 12 LRP usually wins the 500-1000 yard timed steel plate matches.

    So yes, they are competitive and accurate. They do not win HG or LG matches at 1000- but then again, none of the top shooters are using them either.

    My question for you is: were you able to install (can the average person install) the TT Diamond on your Savage or is a gunsmith needed?
     
    Dgd6mm likes this.
  5. Dgd6mm

    Dgd6mm Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,508
    The TT Diamond is on a Origin action which is a Remington footprint clone. This trigger will not install on a Savage. Savage's are limited for triggers in the aftermarket.

    I know how capable a good gas gun can be a some distances.

    Don Dunlap
     
    Horseshoe108 likes this.
  6. SPJ

    SPJ Gold $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,826
    Just my opinion jard doesn’t look much different than Rifle basix
     
  7. SPJ

    SPJ Gold $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,826
    Savage LRPV comes in a single shot 6 Br LP rb 26 inch barrel
    Then of course the F class model is available.
    I built my own
     

    Attached Files:

    Dgd6mm and Horseshoe108 like this.
  8. Horseshoe108

    Horseshoe108 Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    67
    Has anyone reading this thread SOLD a newer Savage in the past few years, and if so why?

    Not just if you had one gun that didn't really shoot good enough, or had some specific issue that you didn't want to fix, but if you found that overall Savage was not what you wanted and the reasons for it. It could be both of what I mentioned and more.

    I'd actually like to see one of our club's top shooters use one and see what they could do with it compared to their $3-6K guns.
     
  9. SPJ

    SPJ Gold $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,826
    It would shoot just fine, even better in the hand of a top shooter.
    The difference between winning and second place can be so small of a margin there’s no benefit in not having the best equipment you can afford.
    I have competed with this Savage a lot it shoots good
     
  10. Horseshoe108

    Horseshoe108 Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    67
    Nice looking gun.

    If I get one I still don't know which one. The 6.5 creedmoor's do really well and one shooter just shot a 1.498" group at 600 yards in a recent match. (they shoot 600 yard matches at a sister club)

    I'd prefer a 6br but there are still a number of options on barrel length and I think 3 or so different factory stocks. I want it to remain factory class if I get one so it will have to keep its stock.
     
  11. eas1949

    eas1949

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2017
    Messages:
    109
    The only part of the new Jard trigger that is Savage is the mounting pin. I checked mine at 5 oz with no creep and slammed the bolt home hard numerous times and the trigger remained set. I used it at the range this weekend and fired 50 with no issues.

    It is a game changer for the Savage trigger.

    You will love it

    Eric
     
    Dusty Stevens likes this.
  12. Horseshoe108

    Horseshoe108 Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    67
    What model and caliber do you have it on?
     
  13. SPJ

    SPJ Gold $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,826
    Will a Creedmoor do this
     

    Attached Files:

    Nature Boy likes this.
  14. Horseshoe108

    Horseshoe108 Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    67
    I don't know. I can only go by what others are doing with them. Looking at 2 guys who I know for sure using creedmoors at 600 yards (which is designated on top of your target) have shot 4.708 & 3.558 AGGS at 600 yards. Those are 5 shot groups on 4 different targets.

    I'm only pointing out what I have some local info. on for comparison.

    What is the length of your barrel?
     
  15. SPJ

    SPJ Gold $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,826
    Mines 28
    Check the equipment list at any Br event, if you see a Creedmoor in the top 10 it’s rare
     
  16. Horseshoe108

    Horseshoe108 Silver $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2019
    Messages:
    67
    If you had a choice between starting with a 12 Fclass (unbalanced heavy front end with 30" barrel), 12 benchrest(less unbalanced with 29" barrel but not a flat bottom stock), 12 lrpv(more balanced with 26" barrel but not a target trigger) which would it be and why- briefly?

    Just picking your brain here.
     
  17. eas1949

    eas1949

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2017
    Messages:
    109
    Savage 12BR stock 6mm BRA, Brux
     
    Horseshoe108 likes this.
  18. SPJ

    SPJ Gold $$ Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,826
    Remington 700
     
    boltfluter likes this.
  19. SavageMark

    SavageMark

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2019
    Messages:
    250
    Hi !

    I own 3 rifles , All Savages . In my humble opinion , you can’t beat them for the money . I’ve shot 2 informal F class competitions . A 500 yard with a 399 24x, and a 300 yard with a 400 28x. At the 300 yard I was only 2 Xs behind the winner . For me they work great . I did put Shilens on them .

    Mark
     
    Horseshoe108 likes this.
  20. SavageMark

    SavageMark

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2019
    Messages:
    250
    I bought a Jard trigger . It’s now sitting in my junk pile . You have to remove a bunch of material in your stock to get it to fit . Wasn’t happy about that !
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page