Has the NRA made a definitive decision on the use of a Labradar during a match?
Space/Room/Time concerns aside, it makes me wonder why that's the case. E-targets are giving you velocity numbers (that are somewhat accurate) at the target; I don't understand what advantage would be gained by getting them at the muzzle too.
I'm probably not smart enough to realize the advantage though...
Edit: No intention of protesting, or making an issue of it.
Ben, i believe it is an unfair advantage. If u drop a shot low you will immediately know if it is velocity or condition.I don't see why you can't use one. There is no "speaker / receiver" for communication. It is NOT a radio, "walkie-talkie" or other communication device, It does NOT make noise to cause interference with anyone shooting. I see nothing in the rules prohibiting it. All it does is tell you what speed you are at the muzzle! E-Targets tell you what speed you are at the target. I fail to see the "rules" prohibiting the e-targets! I think someone would be hard pressed to show you that it is a "device" for communication. Now if the match director doesn't allow it, so be it>>>>but if he / she does not allow it because he / she believes it is a "rule violation", I think they would lose that argument.
Oh I understand Nick.. But would that same scenario not also apply to the E-targets? Even though, it would have to be a "Match Director" decision based on "I don't want to use them". If you used the concept of "getting an advantage", where is that in the rules? I believe that using my .300WSM (qualifier: If I could shoot) is a definite advantage..Ben, i believe it is an unfair advantage. If u drop a shot low you will immediately know if it is velocity or condition.
I guess thats why we are not the governing body, lolOh I understand Nick.. But would that same scenario not also apply to the E-targets? Even though, it would have to be a "Match Director" decision based on "I don't want to use them". If you used the concept of "getting an advantage", where is that in the rules? I believe that using my .300WSM (qualifier: If I could shoot) is a definite advantage..
You are correct my friend! The ONLY time I use the Lab is during load development.. I have enough junk to carry to the line! LOL!!!Try watching the conditions not the Labradar.
John
Really? Do you mean the flags and mirage will help, lolTry watching the conditions not the Labradar.
John
It is interesting to shoot a F-class clean with high X count at 600yds and look at the corresponding Labradar data. Having done this has certainly lessened my worries about having incredibly low sd'sTry watching the conditions not the Labradar.
John
^^^^This^^^^@Ned Ludd, quoted the old rule book...
2018 rule book is here....
https://rulebooks.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf
Here is the exact wording..
3.22 Electronic Devices—Competitors are responsible to ensure that all electronic communications and audio devices in their possession forward of the ready line are silenced and communication disabled.
(a) During team matches only, team members may communicate with each other via communications devices. These communication devices must only be capable of communicating with other team members, and must not interfere with safety, range operations, or other competitors.
(b) Radars, chronographs and other devices designed to measure bullet velocity are prohibited on the line.
(c) Cell phones that have been rendered incapable from communicating (“airplane mode”) are permitted on the line and in the pits.
NOTE: Communications between the line and the pit during team matches is forbidden.
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So 3.22.B specifically prohibits labradar.
Note that wireless communication is allowed.
^^^^This^^^^
To be compliant, e-targets should also have chrono functionality disabled...."match mode."