Stay At Home Order in California??

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  1. JimT

    JimT “I don’t even own a piece of camo!”-Kenny Jarrett Gold $$ Contributor

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    You might want to get a letter of credit also, something tells me old ”Spook” doesn’t have $100,000 laying around.
     
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  2. fyrewall

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    Common sense - you have the right to jump off a cliff & hope for a soft landing in some tree branches or a haystack. But coronavirus gets into infecting others via any momentary slip in protective protocol, defiance (millennials?), or ignorance (83 at one single convention in Boston, MA). Be safe, evaluate facts continually, keep home surfaces clean - hand rails, toilets, light switches, computer key boards (also a pathway for digital debilitation). After trudging around in the supermarket kick off your boots/shoes at the outside door & spray them down with some diluted cheap disinfectant, I like ODOBAN. A reasonable degree of paranoia has served me well for decades, also training in ABC warfare defense.

    I have read Speer's, Inside The Third Reich, and have a feeling how some crisis like the coronavirus might be exploited using fear. I also learned that Speer smuggled out his memoir notes on toilet paper using some jail flunky- the Nuremberg verdict was 20 years jail but the Russians wanted to hang Speer. Speer's policies intended to boost Nazi war production probably killed more innocents in occupied countries like Norway via malnutrition and medical neglect than contemporary coronavirus in that no options were available to combat Speer's Nazi policies - should have hung his a**.
     
  3. Coyotefurharvester

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    Technically no one is dying from COVID 19, they died while having the virus in their respiratory system. Most people have had under lying health issues that prevents their system from forming antibodies fast enough to protect the respiratory system from pneumonia. What we are seeing is an illness that spreads more efficiently through comprised populations. What is being done is preventing healthcare facilities and healthcare workers and other essential services from being overwhelmed. Actions being taken are and will change the rate of hospitalization, it may or may not alter the number of individuals who are infected. That will require vaccination or an environmental block of the virus(as an example when cold/flu season "ends").
     
  4. riflewoman

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    I never said this was a BAD idea, just that he has no authority to do so as there is no case to invoke martial law and the health codes DO NOT address isolation or quarantine of healthy people.
     
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    It would be interesting to do a poll of members here to see the demographic profile of members of this forum. I suspect it is heavily slanted to 60+. I hope those most susceptible take this seriously and stay safe 'n well.
     
  6. 338 dude

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    3300 more guardsmen deployed to 28 more states do you still think everything is a hoax
     
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  7. Spook

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    I'll go a hundo, even money, for the 200,000 you predict dead between now and midnight 12/25/20.
    we need to agree on who's stats we use.
     
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    That's certainly the goal. It didn't work in Italy, and in less than 2 weeks, when the number of cases in the U.S. goes well past 100,000, it will become clear that it was "too little, too late" here, as well.

    Many east Asian countries really got on top of the outbreak -- massive testing, strict (often forced) quarantine for infected individuals, comprehensive contact tracing and quarantine of those contacts, and rapid deployment of specialized quarantine/treatment facilities.

    None of those things have been done in most of the rest of the world (and some probably never could have been done, such as enforced quarantine in the U.S.). The U.S. already has more cases than South Korea ever did, and more than twice as many deaths. We're going to catch up to China in about a week.

    In the U.S. we are still very much in the logarithmic growth phase of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic (see below). Any mitigation measures taken today have a 2-week lag time, during which the number of cases and deaths will very likely increase by 50x (or more). The horse is out of the barn.

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    Excellent! CDC? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

    P.S. This is a bet that I would be very happy to lose, especially since one of my pathologist colleagues died from it the day before yesterday.
     
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  10. Spook

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    Agreed. Hard to imagine a Democrat in the White House before 20 Jan 2021, but these are strange times. :)
     
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  12. Spook

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    Shucks Jim, I aint even gots two dimes to rub t'gether, an thassa fact.
    I was hopin' to luck into Toby's hundo so I could put it toward a bottle of Don Julio I've had on layaway since last Christmas.
     
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  13. jghoghunter

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    I don't think its a hoax. I think they are up to something that we don't know about. YET!
     
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    I said in an earlier post on this site or another when all this is over look and see what is changed that was probably in the works from the start
     
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    And I received an email Tuesday night from a friend who has a friend who warned us about lockdowns and national guards being deployed across the US but I did not say anything for fear of looking like an idiot well I guess not now
     
  16. fyrewall

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    Serious stuff, lots of confusion and misinformation requiring caution and common sense, not panic or autocratic supervisory control intended to diminish individual wise decisions and allow harmful intrusions. Toby Bradshaw's log graph if switched to linear would go way above my computer screen or scaled down to about 1/2 inch wide. The coronavirus stuff gets into shooting with accelerated gun buying, ammo/component shortages, closing of gun shops (D.C.'s only gun store shut down). I fear political exploitation of an hugely expanding, undeniable, harmful coronavirus infection situation and this exploitation will be contrary to our individual constitutional rights, like assembly, guns, speech. Like after the coronavirus is gone will the contrary stuff remain?
     
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    Population of the USA is about 330 million. IF 1% died that would only be 3.3 million. The death rate from the virus is less than .5%, so I guess everyone in the country will have to get it twice.

    If you are scared, fine go hide under a rock. Meanwhile the rest of use want to work, make money and continue on with life.

    I find it really funny how some people are willing to throw the constitution under the bus for every thing that happens. The saying "If it saves one life", makes me puke!
     
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  18. 338 dude

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    I do not like how we are being forced to give up our freedoms but I am older with health issues and not willing to take a chance with my health but I am all for other people doing it if that is what you choose to do
     
  19. jds holler

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    I agree. This is like finding a nest of creepy dangerous black widow spiders under your house and using a flame thrower to take them out. When you're standing amid the smoldering wreckage of your home, you can pat your own back for saving the kids from a dangerous spider bite. jd
     
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    I'm interested in what your source was.
    11299/272167 = 4.15% * 330,000,000 = 13,700,000

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