Need a Good Target Design For Load Development

Discussion in 'Reloading Forum (All Calibers)' started by FatOldMIHunter, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. FatOldMIHunter

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    ODG files are made by Open Office. That's a shareware program that does pretty much everything the Microsoft Office Suite does (Word, Excel, etc.). It's free, but you would need to put it on a Windows computer.
     
  2. 4xforfun

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    I use a target like this and center the crosshair on a corner of the box....it doesn't matter which corner. I NEVER have the impact points anywhere near the aim point. If you are dead on you have just destroyed your aim point.

    This target is a bigger version...this was shot at 750

    Sniper 338 (post #4) showes the 100 yard 6 pack version. 20171202_115243.jpg
     
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    100 Yard grouped (3).jpg
    Here is one that I use. It has a 1/4 dia circle in the center to center your dot or crosshairs.
     
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  4. Forum Boss

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    Here is our targets page. There are over 50 targets.

    http://www.accurateshooter.com/shooting-skills/targets/

    Here is the load development target I developed. Lines for all your data. Set your POI to have shots fall in the 1/2" gray circle, leaving the red dots untouched for precise aiming. I align my fine crosshairs on the corner of the diamonds.

    Here is the downloadable PDF: http://accurateshooter.net/targets/targetaccshooter.pdf

    Here is a larger view of the target:

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    This target is very popular with barrel-makers and gunsmiths -- guys who test all the time. It has what you need to log, with simple graphics. You will find the extended black lines help aiming.
     
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    you need a large simple crosshair target. all the way across and down the paper so you can square the gun on the lines and keep in the real middle.
    i would shoot 3 shoot groups with a mag,
    ( if you cannot hit the animal in the first three..the placement of the fourth just does not matter)
    once you have a load( from a solid bench position), you need to re zero based on what position
    you will hunt from.

     
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  6. akh223

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    I like your setup. If you can make the file available I would like to use it.
    Thanks,
    A.
     
  7. Twoboxer

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    FatOldMIHunter got it right of course, it's the file format used by "Open Office" in its "Draw" program. If you can download Open Office to a PC (just google "Open Office"), PM me with your email address and I will send you the file for that target.

    It's not trivial to learn how to use "Draw", but you could also use that target as a base for your own mods.
     
  8. rardoin

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    Is this a Southern Hemisphere target?;)
     
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    Try something like this. Make a black circle and put white cross hairs on it that measure the same or slightly bigger than your reticle at 100 yards. When the reticle blacks out the crosshairs, you are perfectly on target. 6mmBR 8-18-10 N135.gif
     
  10. FatOldMIHunter

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    This is one of the targets that I looked at through four different scopes today, but I printed it in grayscale and that might be why it didn't work even with a 20 power scope with thin crosshairs. I couldn't see any of the diamond with any of the scopes, so I couldn't center on it. I like the data section.
     
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    This is like something I was thinking of making with 4 squares instead of a circle.
     
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    This one worked well with my thinnest crosshairs at 20 power.

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    I thought about this with respect to my particular reticle. It has these open holes at precise distances in the lower hairline. Why not just put dots precisely centered in the highest and lowest of the open holes and maybe a solid straight line between them? That will cover horizontal and vertical. Where the group ends up only needs to be on the paper but not in those two holes. So how do I get a copy of your ODG file to use as a base?
     
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    Send me a PM with your email address - I'll send it right out to you.
     
  15. 4xforfun

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    Actually...this is how I orient them....and usually the groups are above my aim point because there is more room that way. This was shot at near dark and I couldn't tell where my impact point was with my sighters, so I let fly.

    Tod
     
  16. FatOldMIHunter

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    It wasn't easy getting a halfway decent photo through the scope, but I managed. Using the Draw program that Twoboxer suggested and a sample of his target I designed some targets to see what I can see with this reticle. I think I'll be able to use the first and third circles and the crosshairs on the reticle to get a well-centered target. I think I can fit two targets on a portrait 8.5X11. If I only use the first and third circles I might be able to get 3 on a landscape 8.5X11.

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  17. TerryPohl

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    By No means a expert but it does not matter what I shoot are at what distance but have found the best results for me is dots made with a black marker on freezer paper as small as possible at what ever range and be able to see them through the scope I am looking through.
    Terry Pohl
     
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    That works okay for me when I'm trying to sight in a scope. For load development, I have to get the gun into the same position over and over and over and know that I have done that. Having at least two reference points on the target seems to help with that.
     
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    IMG_0789.PNG I just put these together the other day. Made them in pdf format so i can just print them on a home computer/printer. The big square is where I write the powder charge grains for easy ID. I aim at the center point but at 100 yds i keep most in the target area and off the print. I staple 6 or 8 of them on a piece of cardboard. Welcome to use them if they are what you need. Let me see if i can attach it...
     
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  20. BenneZen

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    Hello shooters!
    I've got a question regarding those targets... What is the square for? Apparently it's being used in the context of sighting in and/or load developement. But I don't understand the exact purpose of it... Can anybody help?
    Thanx in advance!
     

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