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Neck Turning, what to buy?

Please advise what neck turning set ups you recommend?
This is for 308 and 284 cases, not the PPC, BR types.
There is so much out there its hard to choose.
Maybe a combo set up?
Pumpkin cutter and some sort of turning jig?
Thx.
 
Thank you all.
There is enough enthusiasm fr the 21st Century pkg here that i will just go ahead and try their complete pkg deal. I dont like using my floor lather i have seen some things that bother me with the end result.
Thx, ordering now.
 
You can buy extra mandrels and an additional head and interchange using the same 21st Century base. That's what I do between my .308 and 6.5.
 
i'll call bs on that statement.
i have one and have used it for years.
easy to use by hand.
easy to use if case is driven by a drill,
and easy to use with the cutter head in my lathe using the case holder by hand.
and then he wants you to PAY someone else to do your cases, BECAUSE there is a learning curve.
pay attention to who you listen to.

Forget the Pumpkin---all hype. Is having some vendor doing them out of the question?You ARE going to ruin some cases until you acquire a learning curve.....and this will be frustrating until you become proficient.
 
The Pumpkin is an excellent tool. You don't ruin any brass if you use common sense in setting it up. Maybe it isn't for everyone. If anyone has another one in excellent condition that they want to sell please PM me.

JP
 
ok for you to bad mouth a product BASED ON THE MAKER instead of the product, but not ok for me to defend the product...talk about poor attitude.
 
I do not want to interrupt any of this seriously important bickering however.
I screwed up by not ordering the fully loaded motorized version,,, hopefully that is all fixed, wow wowow a mini lathe all set and ready to turn out match winning brass, just that easy,,,, right? :p
 
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I dot want to interrupt any of this seriously important bickering however.
I screwed up by not ordering the fully loaded motorized version,,, hopefully that is all fixed, wow wowow a mini lather all set and ready to turn out match winning brass, just that east,,,, right? :p

What were we discussing again? Oh yes...

I would love to have the motorized version. Couldn't quite swing it when I bought mine so using my cordless drill to run it but it works great. Still holding out hope to get the motor conversion kit at some point.

 
What were we discussing again? Oh yes...

I would love to have the motorized version. Couldn't quite swing it when I bought mine so using my cordless drill to run it but it works great. Still holding out hope to get the motor conversion kit at some point.


Still loving that bench
 
The Pumpkin is an excellent tool. You don't ruin any brass if you use common sense in setting it up. Maybe it isn't for everyone. If anyone has another one in excellent condition that they want to sell please PM me.

JP
I have two. They work great.
 
The pumpkin is a good tool, but I use it in my mini lathe on only turn for one neck diameter. When using the drill and hand method I really liked the PMA’s, either models based on your needs and or budgets. Super comfortable to hold, not too large or small. Size is my only knock on the K&M, it’s so small my hand cramps up quickly.
 
I think everyone praises the turner they own, just the way we are! They will talk down the other quality systems, often without ever having used more than the first one they bought. I tried 3 of the better systems, before I was satisfied. Bet you can't guess the winner!!IMG_20180319_164720311.jpg
 
I think everyone praises the turner they own, just the way we are! They will talk down the other quality systems, often without ever having used more than the first one they bought. I tried 3 of the better systems, before I was satisfied. Bet you can't guess the winner!!View attachment 1050967

I need to order a complete neck turner. Is the K & M your favorite over the 21st Century? Have you tried both? Also, what is the "Pumpkin"?
 
I also like the K&M. They are reasonably priced -that allows me to have a dedicated turner for each caliber that I turn necks for. No fiddlin' with adjustments every time I need to use them.....and as accurate as anything else out there. The Pumpkin is an orange neck turner-no longer in production (as far as I can tell).
 
I have the old version of the 21st Century lathe and hooked up a cordless screwdriver on a coffee caddy to slide back and forth and it works great. The motorized version wasn't available back then. I did want to comment on 21st Century customer service should anyone decide to go with their neck turning equipment. John at 21st Century is a stand up guy. He answers the phone himself, listens, and then goes to work on the problem. I did wildcatting on a 338-375 and John was phenomenal in custom seater dies and neck turning modifications. When I screwed up he made it right usually at no charge. Sure, the 21st Century equipment is high dollar, but it is also high end machining and top notch craftsmanship. No I don't work for them but use most of their products. I also use PMA equipment (stellar machining and great customer service) and also have a lot of K&M tools (Roger at K&M is also extremely helpful and great to work with on custom mandrels). In short, if you decide to go with top notch equipment you will not be disappointed.

dan
 

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