IBS 1000 YD competators PLEASE READ !!!!

[mikegaiz]

Hello Long Range Shooters,

There is an important ballot item for IBS 1000 yard Benchrest this year. Here is what will appear on the ballot that you should have just received from IBS in the mail:

LR3: “One Club/One Range with Exceptions” in 1000 yard competition, 1000 yard Ranges and Clubs

Ranges are only permitted to hold IBS sanctioned matches for one IBS Club for its 1000 yard matches, noting that:

• The Virginia 1000 Yard Benchrest Club is grandfathered and is not subject to this rule.
• By action of the Long Range Committee, and with agreement by the Executive Board, this one range/one club rule may be waived in order to allow more than one club to use the same range if there is a reasonable expectation that it will lead to growth of the 1000 yard discipline. However, the second club at the range must be a distinct club with distinct officers running its own matches, not a clone of the other club.
• The Long Range Committee is required, to the best of its ability, to establish a 1000 yard Shooter of the Year points system that minimizes geographical advantage. (EBoard comment: this last bullet is a recommendation and not subject to a rules amendment)

The key issue is that there are hardly any privately owned 1000 yard ranges out there that are suitable or available for IBS competitions, and most military ranges severely restrict use of their ranges by civilians. The lack of ranges to hold IBS Matches is the key thing limiting the expansion of our discipline.

So with this severe limitation on the number of 1000 yard ranges, why would we want to restrict the number of 1000 yard matches at a range? Of course, each club holding matches needs to be a distinct club as noted in the Ballot Item.

There has been an ongoing effort by a few people within IBS to not allow the Virginia 1000 Yard Benchrest Club to continue to hold IBS matches at the Harry Jones Memorial Range. For many years we have been unable to find another suitable 1000 yard range to hold VA 1000 matches. So not allowing VA 1000 to hold its matches at the Harry Jones Range is the same thing as killing off the VA 1000 yard club.

This ballot item, once passed, will stop this effort by a few to get rid of VA 1000.

I strongly urge you to vote "YES" to this ballot item.

Best Regards,
Jeff Green
President, Virginia 1000 Yard Benchrest Club

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I'd like to hear comments from both sides of the isle. pros/cons
Thanks

 

[Hoodoo]

Mine went out yesterday.

 

[bcarico]

Seems like it should be the same across the board. To be ok at one place but not another doesn't make sense.

 

[alf]

Seems like it should be the same across the board. To be ok at one place but not another doesn't make sense.

Exactly....IBS makes it a point to eliminate other ranges from doing this......600 and 1K both...

Buncha bullshit......

 

[22DASHER]

If you want growth then it needs to be the same/fair across the board. Make it OK for all then!

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

Y'all need to look at sats history data whatever you want to call it how long has the Virginia Club shot on the Harry Jones range how many new shooters has this brought into the IBS ? Is The Virginian Club actively seeking a new range? If you receive unemployment you are required to report and show that you are actively seeking work. What happens if either Harry Jones or Whitehorse is no longer allowed to host thousand-yard IBS will we find three clubs at one of those rangers just because they've been there forever. For too long the agenda of a few have overshadowed the growth of the IBS in 1000 yard shooting. And now I see them trying to hedge their bet by placing Jeff as vice president.
Let's move on with all things equal for all and grow this sport. If more than 1 club can shoot on a range then All ranges should be allowed to shoot multiple clubs .

 

[Joe Salt]

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but if you run all over trying to get SOY point why not limit it to a certain number of matches and use an Agg. to decide the winner!

Joe Salt

 

[savagedasher]

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but if you run all over trying to get SOY point why not limit it to a certain number of matches and use an Agg. to decide the winner!

Joe Salt

Wouldn’t that be too. Simple

 

[bcarico]

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but if you run all over trying to get SOY point why not limit it to a certain number of matches and use an Agg. to decide the winner!

Joe Salt

It is limited to your best 18 matches

 

[22DASHER]

It is limited to your best 18 matches

Unfair when 20 of them can be at one range in the country....but no other range can do that.

 

[alf]

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but if you run all over trying to get SOY point why not limit it to a certain number of matches and use an Agg. to decide the winner!

It's already in the rules. You can have as many matches as you want at a single club, but only the 1st 10 count.

Those guys skirt the rules by having 2 "separate" clubs, but don't allow anyone else to do the same.

 

[JMayo]

Well I'm totally confused.
Here there is only 1 600yd and one 1k with in 2.5 hrs drive.
I want 2 clubs at each. Thus filling up the calender "shooting session".

What answer, yes or no, goes on the ballot for each.....

I'm not stupid but I find the language used confusing.

 

[mikegaiz]

Why would you make any rule that would not allow our sport to grow new clubs. There are not very many 1000 yd. ranges. Is this too hard to understand? We need to grow the sport.......Not get into political battles, we have enough of that in life as it is.

 

[dmoran]

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LR3: “One Club/One Range with Exceptions” in 1000 yard competition, 1000 yard Ranges and Clubs

Re-write it so ALL ranges have the same opportunity, and doubt there would be issue.
One club being granted a Grandfather clause is not uniform or fair/equal.

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• The Long Range Committee is required, to the best of its ability, to establish a 1000 yard Shooter of the Year points system that minimizes geographical advantage. (EBoard comment: this last bullet is a recommendation and not subject to a rules amendment)

Fallow the By-Laws of 1 uniform format (not 3 separate formats + point structures) and the point system would not be a such disaster.

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[mikegaiz]

Unfair when 20 of them can be at one range in the country....but no other range can do that.

If there were more shooters and clubs they could. Start a local club and fix the problem and stop complaining.....Is every getting so short sited? If you build it they will come.......

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

If there were more shooters and clubs they could. Start a local club and fix the problem and stop complaining.....Is every getting so short sited? If you build it they will come.......

Yes but only 1 club see there is only one location where more than one is allowed.
Hear this you can't use that old Jedi mind trick any longer there is a new Force on the horizon and it will bring many more shooters.

 

[reevesWV Iceman]

Yes but only 1 club see there is only one location where more than one is allowed.
Hear this you can't use that old Jedi mind trick any longer there is a new Force on the horizon and it will bring many more shooters.

I remember when North Florida and Cool Acres used the same range.

 

[mikegaiz]

Yes but only 1 club see there is only one location where more than one is allowed.
Hear this you can't use that old Jedi mind trick any longer there is a new Force on the horizon and it will bring many more shooters.

The growth of the PRS will bring more long range shooters in the future. Do something except complain...

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

I remember when North Florida and Cool Acres used the same range.

Yes Sir that his true and when the man running the matches became ill and could no longer manage his club we stopped. I feel there is a new group of Fl. Shooters that would live to start a 1k club at Cool Acres but alas that is reserved for only 1