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Annealing machine

I'm not going to argue BEP but I can tell you as I'm sure many others can that annealing after each firing keeps the load pressure and consistency better and after all it's that 1 small hole or all 11s what we are after?
I think it is important for people to test everything. I tested both gas torch and induction annealing and saw no changes on the target. Gave each method a solid 100 rnd shake down on 6x fired brass to see if it made a difference. I just recently tried the induction annealing again with my 20 Vartarg and my 22BR with no measurable improvement at 300 yards.

I am in a unique situation of having an industrial induction heater available at work to play with, but anyone can try out gas torch annealing without laying out hundreds of dollars for a commercial system to see if it reaps rewards for them. If you use a lot of neck tension or have to generously size your brass for functionality in a hunting or PRS gun, then you may see more benefit than a guy like me that single feeds his BR rifles rounds that have basically zero shoulder bump (just enough to maintain a smooth bolt close) and 0.001" of neck tension.

There's also placebo. If you like doing it and it makes you feel more confident in your process, then that isn't without value. The AMP is just very expensive if you aren't sure that it will give you that reward. That said, if you know you want an annealer, the AMP is the best setup available.

Just my 0.02
 
I think it is important for people to test everything. I tested both gas torch and induction annealing and saw no changes on the target. Gave each method a solid 100 rnd shake down on 6x fired brass to see if it made a difference. I just recently tried the induction annealing again with my 20 Vartarg and my 22BR with no measurable improvement at 300 yards.

I am in a unique situation of having an industrial induction heater available at work to play with, but anyone can try out gas torch annealing without laying out hundreds of dollars for a commercial system to see if it reaps rewards for them. If you use a lot of neck tension or have to generously size your brass for functionality in a hunting or PRS gun, then you may see more benefit than a guy like me that single feeds his BR rifles rounds that have basically zero shoulder bump (just enough to maintain a smooth bolt close) and 0.001" of neck tension.

There's also placebo. If you like doing it and it makes you feel more confident in your process, then that isn't without value. The AMP is just very expensive if you aren't sure that it will give you that reward. That said, if you know you want an annealer, the AMP is the best setup available.

Just my 0.02
When you say "torch".
Are you referring to drill and torch, or annealeze?
 
I have a Giraud gas model and I use it on all my brass I shoot (I shoot palma and other LR prone matches). I love that it has a hopper and I can set the torch and dwell ect and then let them run. I can sit there and surf the internet on my phone while it does it’s thing and I don’t have to touch it again. I feel the benefit of more consistent next tension and brass life are worth it. I shoot about 4-6k rounds a year in LR prone matches so I use mine a lot. I have had it for close to 10 years. If i was buying now I would probably go induction. But, I have upgraded my Giraud with a pressure regulator and a new dwell knob and it is much better than before.
 

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