Annealing machine

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  1. Dagwood99

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    I’m looking into getting a annealing machine and was wondering what everybody recommends. Thanks
     
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    AMP, yes it is expensive but it is a lifetime investment (and if you decide to sell it you'll get the most back out of it) and will be the most consistent of all of them, some of the "flame" guys will argue but there is no way to keep the pressure and flame the same with bottled propane. Good luck with your search!
     
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    IMO, the value of an annealing machine is related to the how much you shoot and how often you plan to anneal. I bought an AMP Annealer a few years ago and stared at it unused for about a month. I decided it wasn’t a good value compared to the cost of an annealing service and ended up returning it to Sinclair/Brownells in the original box.
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    What's the cost per case to have your brass annealed?
    Wouldn't it eventually pay for itself?
    I'll still pick up pennies in the parking lot, but have issues tripping over a dollar to pick up a dime.
     
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    plus one on the AMP.

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    Amp is probably the best choice if cost is not a factor. It is for me, so I went with Salt Bath annealing. Waaaaay cheaper and just about as fast.
     
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  8. Hoser

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    AMP.

    Consistency is key.
     
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    I believe that induction annealing is more repeatable, and easier to adjust to a recordable set of numbers.
    I believe the Annie has everything you need , and at a considerably lower cost than some others.
    Here is a link to how I packaged mine.
    https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/induction-annealer-built-around-annie.3914150/
    I suggest you also look at post #43, Norm Matzens very low cost and simple method of setting up for different cases.
     
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    They don't call it Annealing Made PERFECT..for nothing. :)
     
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    I use the Bench Source but I am still learning and it fit my wallet at the time. But I still lust over the AMP. There are some nice units out there do your research and consider resale value when ready to move up.
     
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    An typical annealing service cost is around $.20 ea. if my math is right, it would take you about 5,000 rounds to break even on a AMP Annealer investment. That also means you would likely have shot out 5-10 barrels.
    Ben
     
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    I bought Annealeez when they first came out, last year upgraded to AMP and never looked back
     
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    What cartridge is one shooting that would go through a barrel in 1000 or 500 rounds?

    Ave
     
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    If you have some electronic experience, you can build this really great induction annealing machine. Cost wise for about $350 bucks.
    It does precise annealing times, down to the 1/100 of a second. It's fast, 100 cases in less than 15 minutes. Take a look at the video, further down on page one.
    The "basic GinaErick"

    http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/induction-brass-annealer-redux.3908353/
     
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    $20-$25 per hundred and that does NOT cover shipping so add another 10-15 bucks. Round it out to $35 per hundred.

    If you are a reloader, shoot more than 1000 rounds/year, and are serious about precision, it makes sense to have your own annealer - IMO.

    In precision reloading, inconsistent annealing is WORSE than no annealing. Induction will give more consistent annealing than flame or salt bath techniques unless you are an absolute master of heat control. Also - IMO.

    I stay away from salt bath discussions simply because there is too much info out there suggesting the results are very erratic. I’m not trying to cause controversy with that statement, just trying to inform to OP.
     
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    I am serious about shooting, and have a few BR guns. I usually stop shooting my barrels at 450-500 rds. About 90% of what I shoot is 6 Dasher at 500 yds. Average shooting day for me is about 25-35 rounds twice a week. In all conditions I use wind flags & and my goal is to be able to consistently shoot 1.5”-2.5” five shot groups in light winds. What is a great day? ...1.0” - 1.25” 5 shot groups. Anymore, my BR shooting is just for fun. My loaded 6 Dasher ammo will easily last more than my shift. Instead of changing my load, I just nudge my Ezell Tuner.
    It helps to be retired,
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