XM-118LR in a M24 SWS...

[Canadian bushman]

For some reason im under the impression that the M118lr is loaded with RL 15. Ive heard socom developed another load with less temp sensitivity and more consistent es but its for deployed units only.

Any how i shot a 1000 yd match a while back with a guy shooting m118lr out of a 24" AI and that ammo was terrible. It had the lightest of cracks when it came overhead, and those things were landing everywhere. This guy was active duty and was getting this stuff from the armory for free. If its true they sale the rejects to civilians, id sure not expect much from it at long range.

I did talk to the shooter after the match and he said he pulled all the bullets and cleaned off the sealant and re seated them for a 600 yd match and did pretty well but didnt have enough time to do this for the 1k match. So what navyrad8r holds some merit from what ive heard.

 

[OttoVonMog]

For some reason im under the impression that the M118lr is loaded with RL 15. Ive heard socom developed another load with less temp sensitivity and more consistent es but its for deployed units only.

Any how i shot a 1000 yd match a while back with a guy shooting m118lr out of a 24" AI and that ammo was terrible. It had the lightest of cracks when it came overhead, and those things were landing everywhere. This guy was active duty and was getting this stuff from the armory for free. If its true they sale the rejects to civilians, id sure not expect much from it at long range.

I did talk to the shooter after the match and he said he pulled all the bullets and cleaned off the sealant and re seated them for a 600 yd match and did pretty well but didnt have enough time to do this for the 1k match. So what navyrad8r holds some merit from what ive heard.

This is interesting. I don't believe the M118LR is the rejected ammo but older stocks from the late 1990's.

 

[Canadian bushman]

For some reason im under the impression that the M118lr is loaded with RL 15. Ive heard socom developed another load with less temp sensitivity and more consistent es but its for deployed units only.

Any how i shot a 1000 yd match a while back with a guy shooting m118lr out of a 24" AI and that ammo was terrible. It had the lightest of cracks when it came overhead, and those things were landing everywhere. This guy was active duty and was getting this stuff from the armory for free. If its true they sale the rejects to civilians, id sure not expect much from it at long range.

I did talk to the shooter after the match and he said he pulled all the bullets and cleaned off the sealant and re seated them for a 600 yd match and did pretty well but didnt have enough time to do this for the 1k match. So what navyrad8r holds some merit from what ive heard.

This is interesting. I don't believe the M118LR is the rejected ammo but older stocks from the late 1990's.

I dont know how true that is, just something ive been told.

 

[OttoVonMog]

For some reason im under the impression that the M118lr is loaded with RL 15. Ive heard socom developed another load with less temp sensitivity and more consistent es but its for deployed units only.

Any how i shot a 1000 yd match a while back with a guy shooting m118lr out of a 24" AI and that ammo was terrible. It had the lightest of cracks when it came overhead, and those things were landing everywhere. This guy was active duty and was getting this stuff from the armory for free. If its true they sale the rejects to civilians, id sure not expect much from it at long range.

I did talk to the shooter after the match and he said he pulled all the bullets and cleaned off the sealant and re seated them for a 600 yd match and did pretty well but didnt have enough time to do this for the 1k match. So what navyrad8r holds some merit from what ive heard.

This is interesting. I don't believe the M118LR is the rejected ammo but older stocks from the late 1990's.

I dont know how true that is, just something ive been told.

My goal is to simply try to reduce amount of fictional accounts about the M118LR that exists out there.

 

[Rtheurer]

Forgive me for asking this....How are you going to Separate your findings with the different Lot# of ammo that have been produced. Every Lot# of M118LR has its own accuracy. As Canadian Bushman points out the type of powder in M 118LR has changed over the years from R15 to IMR4064 and god only knows what else, this to include a Reduction in Powder charge of R15 from early loading's to later production. We would get Lot#'s of this stuff and Some would shoot 3/4 MOA and some really good stuff would be under a 1/2MOA. Also some rifles just shoot better than other's as I am sure you know.

One Lot # with One rifle, I don't believe is going to quench or prove any Fictional results based off a very very small sample size of what is in the Military system. What you for sure will prove is what that Particluar rifle/Ammo combo is capable of. Sounds like your going to get out and enjoy it no matter what happens and good on you sir.

It will be interesting to see what you end up with. Looking forward to your Results.

Russ T

 

[amlevin]

I have a hunch that the M24's barrel is button-rifled.

Hammer forged.

 

[amlevin]

Curiosity. on my part. Trust me I've done a lot of research on the military ammo. The US government has the information, but, they aren't readily sharing any of it.

Perhaps the government isn't sharing but the supplier is.

The M118LR has been superseded by MK316 Mod 0 which is a "Special" Federal case, Fed GMM primer, 41.75 gr or IMR-4064 and a 175 SMK on top. COAL 2.800"

RL-15 was abandoned due to the temperature sensitivity when subjected to "Middle Eastern" environments.

I shoot the above load using Lapua brass and Tula Primers. Accuracy from my rifle is consistently sub 1/2 MOA.

 

[Rtheurer]

Amlevin

That MK316 Mod 0 shoots lights out. Saw some first hand test results from a Certain Three letter agency my fellow team mate works for. I even saw some over seas with some grunts toting around the EBR.

 

[amlevin]

Amlevin

That MK316 Mod 0 shoots lights out. Saw some first hand test results from a Certain Three letter agency my fellow team mate works for. I even saw some over seas with some grunts toting around the EBR.

Yes they do. This was shot using my "clone load" (same powder/charge weight and bullet, just lapua and tula substituted for case and primer). The "flier" was the dreaded "fifth shot" that I screwed up royally from the start so I only measured the four "good ones" . This is from a rifle resting on a bipod up front and a monopod in the rear. Probably looks a lot like your "alphabet agency" friends rifle.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

The mk316 mod 0 shoots very well in everything ive seen. I use it in my EBR, NM m1a and an m24 clone built right. Its always a good solid performer where the older loads like the 118 sucks 9mo a year. I guess thats why they dont use it anymore.