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Would you buy a manually fed case annealer for $150?

I have been playing with a concept for a while, but have not spent any time actually making a prototype.


Although I don't have any sketches or anything, so do your best to picture it... Essentially it would be a properly functioning, easy to use unit. The specifics are not as important as the end goal of a manually fed, affordable annealing machine.




It would be a single flame, rotating case (not a big rotating plate) , manual feed/extract annealer.




It would work in such a way where you put a case into the caliber specific holder (all cals up to Lapua would be included in the price) and advance the case holding arm into the flame, where it will rotate for x.xx amount of seconds. At that time a second manual push will drop the case into whatever you're storing it in, and you would retract the arm to a flame-free area, load the next case, and repeat.



I have always wanted an annealer but $400-$500 is too steep of a price considering the minimal use I would be needing. Yes, there is the whole group of people who provide annealing services, but let's ignore that temporarily. I am thinking that if I could design and manufacture an annealer that is in the range of $150, it would be a much more justifiable purchase for the average shooter, and would provide the convenience of immediate annealing, rather than having to ship your brass and wait a few days.







So, based on this best attempt at a description, is a $150 manually fed annealer something you would be interested in?


If I can get enough interest, I will proceed with a prototype (as soon as I have some time) and continue from there. I just want to get some feedback first.


The benefit here is that I would be the manufacturer, so you'd get manufacturer direct pricing. I suspect many of the annealing machines are designed by one person who has someone else make them, then re-sells at x markup, which just increases end user cost.
 
Is be interested but if when you make a prototype be sure to post a video to YouTube and link it here. Then we can get a view of what you're seeing.
 
Having purchased your products in the past, Tom… you make one, and i'll be your first customer ;)
 
Very interested.

Their must/should be something between the drill/socket method and the 500.00 dollar all bells/whistles model. I can't justify the all in machine to use 3-4 times a year but an option costing 125-150....very interested for sure.
 
If you do come up with a concept , make sure you make it as small as possible so it doesn't take up as much room on the bench top like a lot of the others on the market.
 
interested. I actually had the plan to make one on my priority list. But it is so far down there that I can hardly even see it.
 
This is one made by a guy who's building a rifle for me .... Very simple ... Very quick... He posted on you tube so I guess there are no trade secrets ...

http://youtu.be/M3Ln5ZdCyz8
 
Daddyneuf said:
This is one made by a guy who's building a rifle for me .... Very simple ... Very quick... He posted on you tube so I guess there are no trade secrets ...

http://youtu.be/M3Ln5ZdCyz8

I would buy that if it was at a good price.
simple to use and small.
 
400short said:
http://www.cartridgeanneal.com/ may be competition for you.

My sense is that many reloaders have some simple system such as portrayed in this video. For myself, I anneal a low volume of casings (less than 50 at a time) and can't justify spending a large sum. I actually have a Hornday Annealing Kit that is not made any longer plus a cheap electric screw driver that turns a casing (placed in one of the Hornady Kits inserts) at a low RPM, using a single torch and it's worked for me for years.

So if you are thinking about inventing something new, go for it! But you won't really know how well it will sell until you come up with the protype and actually market it. That's when it'll prove to be a seller or not. I suspect that even as nice as Hornady's idea was with their simple annealing kit, they didn't sell enough of them to make it work their while since a simple socket works just as easily using some other simple tool to turn the casing.

Alex
 
let's ignore that temporarily

Annealing is a subject that has always brought out the ugly in forum members, any forum. "let's ignore that temporarily" I never understood the hostility.

I did take a look at annealing, I outlined a few basic rules then built an annealing system based on the rules. there is no 'WOW FACTOR', only requirement, a few shop tools and shop skill.

$150.00, takes up space on the bench, WOW factor? I can't help.

F. Guffey
 
Shynloco said:
400short said:
http://www.cartridgeanneal.com/ may be competition for you.

My sense is that many reloaders have some simple system such as portrayed in this video. For myself, I anneal a low volume of casings (less than 50 at a time) and can't justify spending a large sum. I actually have a Hornday Annealing Kit that is not made any longer plus a cheap electric screw driver that turns a casing (placed in one of the Hornady Kits inserts) at a low RPM, using a single torch and it's worked for me for years.

So if you are thinking about inventing something new, go for it! But you won't really know how well it will sell until you come up with the protype and actually market it. That's when it'll prove to be a seller or not. I suspect that even as nice as Hornady's idea was with their simple annealing kit, they didn't sell enough of them to make it work their while since a simple socket works just as easily using some other simple tool to turn the casing.

Alex

I'm in the same boat as you. I anneal with a very simple and inexpensive method. Don't even have the Hornady "tool", I just raided my tool box for a deep impact socket, adapter from 3/8" drive down to 1/4" hex, and a cheap cordless screw driver. Already had the torch as well.

I think the Hornady tool was discontinued most likely because it was nothing more than the deep socket I use.

To me the only machine that would make sense is the Auto-Loading Giraud but only if I was processing huge quantities of brass regularly. For me, I can easily anneal up to several hundred pieces in a single session although most involve 50-100 and that's it for another month.
 

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