Worn Out Savage Trigger

[CaptainMal]

Third barrel on my Savage dual-port action and now it looks like the 4th trigger is needed.

After about 1,000 rds. my original Accutrigger would not function. Playing did nothing so I bought a Rifle Basics. After about 500 rds . I gave up on it as unsafe and unreliable. No setting below say 10 oz. would work and it was supposed to be the target model. Worthless garbage and unsafe, I gave it away.

Found another Savage Accutrigger and put it on. This one was "customized" by disassembly and polish to make it work. Set at 7 oz it worked until a few days ago. Now it's 24 oz. and changed all-of-a-sudden. I took it apart last night, cleaned all pins and played for hours to get 12 oz. out of it reliably. I figure it's gone like the first one.

Any other option available?

I want something safe that will go to or below 10 oz and last more than a thousand rounds.

 

[CharlieNC]

The Sharp Shooters Supply triggers are good. You must have them install the comp model, but you can order their standard model.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Larry, I doubt you'll find anything you'll really like. This should help, www.kelbly.com ;D

 

[Terry]

Something is wrong. I have several rifle basic triggers and several high mileage acutriggers. All work well.

 

[CaptainMal]

Wish I knew what was wrong. From what I can tell mine wear out on the pivot pins but still not sure. Both of them have failed and I saw others in the "junk box" at Bostrom Gunsmithing. He told me there's little he can do about the triggers except to keep on using new factory ones for as long as they last. For me, it's not very long.

Saw nothing Savage related on Kelbys site. Did hear one time of someone that marketed a target trigger for the actions other than Rifle Basics. Just could not find a link to it.

Will check on Sharp Shooters' Supply. Bit of a bummer to tear the gun apart, pay and deal with the hassle of sending the action to them and then getting the barrel put back on. If that's the way it has to be, then maybe that's what it will be and the price you pay to build with a Savage.

That Sharp Shooter trigger is about $200 plus shipping. That's fine but there's no price on having them time and true the action. My take is it's both expensive and quite time-consuming.

Oh well. Thanks for the help.

 

[dmoran]

..... Saw nothing Savage related on Kelbys site. Did hear one time of someone that marketed a target trigger for the actions other than Rifle Basics. Just could not find a link to it. ....

Larry -

I'm thinking Alex was hinting something else from Kelby's.... Me as well !.!.!

Good Luck
Donovan

 

[CaptainMal]

Thanks.

Couldn't figure it either and was slow understanding. Many at the club urge me to junk the thing and build something on a true custom action. That might be in the long-term but for now, not yet.

Hope to run into Alex this summer as our plans are to head to Montana sometime.

More research on the trigger thing tells me if I continue with it, the Evolution Sharp Shooter Supply trigger is the only way to go. Leaving town for a few days and will explore ripping the rifle apart when I get back. No clue what their charges are but I will find out.

 

[MrMajestic]

Fred and Lisa are great. Many complain but they are a small shop and he has business o'plenty. Many think that if they don't turn around in a couple of months they are bad. I'm sure many remember when gunsmiths were always 1+ years for service. We now have this crowd for here and now. Emailing Lisa is your best communication, schmooze her and you're in! ;D Fred only does top notch service IMHO. I told Lisa when she dumps Fred I'm marrying her! ;D Fred built me a Target action with Brux barrel in 6.5X47L. I chose the heavier of his triggers though as it is a Hunter.

 

[Joe R]

A friend of mine is on his third trigger for his Savage, the last one was a Rifle Basics. He has come to the conclusion that Savage will only take him as far as Master. He has decided to up his game by going with a Kelbly.

Kindest regards,

Joe

 

[Sniper338]

Savages are POS, you get what you pay for. Cheap is cheap for a reason. I wouldn't want one for free!! Even if it shot .1s all day long.

just my .02! My opinion lol. NOTHING PERSONAL TO ANYONE!

 

[matthias]

Pos?

Wow . An accurate factory rifle at a price point most if not all could afford. Keeping the sport accessible to everyone . Nothing to complain about. Tells me more about the person than the rifles.


My opinion . Nothing personal

 

[CaptainMal]

No concern with criticism on my end. I paid $2,000 to have this gun built. Spent another $2,000 scoping, another $1,000 for the Sinclair rest and rear bags plus other stuff. Then two additional Krieger barrels, brakes, tuners, 500 Lapua cases, Forester dies, 4,000 rds of components and probably a months worth of time, effort and travel. Surely $10,000 and more to play with this thing the past couple of years.

Cheap?

You be the judge.

I have learned, made friends, enjoyed the shooting, won a few matches in the 600 and 1,000 yard shoots and basically had fun. Fun is what it is all about for me. When it's not fun I will no longer do it.

As an aside, this new Krieger barrel is fighting my testing. I have not made a two-shot group under .4 MOA in near 200 rds. Trigger?

Maybe. Something else? Don't know but until I can get a workable trigger I'm up the creek without a paddle.

 

[Joe R]

Sniper338
Savages are POS, you get what you pay for. Cheap is cheap for a reason. I wouldn't want one for free!! Even if it shot .1s all day long.

just my .02! My opinion lol. NOTHING PERSONAL TO ANYONE!

No offense taken, I have owned a couple but I don't own one presently. However, that seems like a pretty pejorative way to talk about what is generally recognized as the most accurate factory rifle. Just my opinion, nothing personal to anyone.

 

[OIF/OEF]

Brother I am a nobody and am just getting started on this accuracy thing. My first setup was a Savage and I love them. I switched over to another barrel nut setup and me and Savage had a nasty divorce...she has taken thousands of my hard earned dollars and it was worth every single round fired but she let me down a few too many times. Now I am positive most of our problems were my fault. I still have a few Savages for long range coyote shooting and such and they are crazy accurate....I've started going to Remington for the triggers alone. An older guy on here GAVE me an old Shilen trigger that is ridiculous light compared to my Jewell I just bought. Smooth, Safe, Reliable and did I mention safe. If you love the barrel nut look at a Remage setup and don't look back. Again I am a total newb, green hand, bob new hat, new guy lol.


Very Respectfully Submitted Sir

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Larry, do not buy a high dollar for that thing. Those triggers are extremely simple. Get some one to look at it and find the problem. Something doesnt seem right. I would put as little $$ in it as possible. And if that barrel has not shot in the first 200 chances are it wont. It is about fun, and I guarantee you'll have more fun when your equipment is working for you. A savage is an expense, while a good custom rifle is an investment. I have not lost a penny on any of my rifles that I have sold. When you are ready, give Dana English a call and have him build you a proper rifle. I promise you'll have more fun ;D

 

[Shynloco]

Savages are POS, you get what you pay for. Cheap is cheap for a reason. I wouldn't want one for free!! Even if it shot .1s all day long.

just my .02! My opinion lol. NOTHING PERSONAL TO ANYONE!

Certainly, everyone is entitled to their opinion. And 10 years ago you couldn't give me a Savage. But that has all been reversed and IMHO, Savage now builds the most accurate OUT OF THE BOX rifle sold on the market today. And I base that statement not upon conjecture, second hand exposure or any other factor OTHER than experiencing the accuracy of a number of different Savages that I now own. The one flaw that I have noted is the Accutrigger mechanism which I believe IS A POS! Having had to reset and adjust the trigger repeatedly (no matter the model) is an irritant that took me to replacing the triggers simply because Savages triggers get to a point in which you cannot get them down to where say a Jewell Trigger goes (not even close). So the answer I found that got me closer was the Timney SAV2 trigger (and others-Rifle Basix), which makes the rifle more shooter friendly for Benchrest Shooters. That didn't change the accuracy factor in any of the Savages which have been excellent since day one. And I get and understand the theory behind "Accutrigger" which is good for hunting purposes. But why (other than cost perhaps) would you put a "Accutrigger" into a Model 12 Benchrest rifle, is beyond me. Each to his own I guess and like all others have posted, NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE. So if anyone want to give me a Savage, I'll gladly take it off your hands and then I'll have the trigger changed out by my Gunsmith, who does all the work on my rifles. I live by my own self imposed statement, "I only shoot 'em, I don't fix 'em."

Alex

P.S. CaptainMel...have you tried a Timney SAV2? Works great in my Model 12 Benchrest and I'm down around 5 ozs......SWEET!

 

[Sniper338]

Savages are POS, you get what you pay for. Cheap is cheap for a reason. I wouldn't want one for free!! Even if it shot .1s all day long.

just my .02! My opinion lol. NOTHING PERSONAL TO ANYONE!

Certainly, everyone is entitled to their opinion. And 10 years ago you couldn't give me a Savage. But that has all been reversed and IMHO, Savage now builds the most accurate OUT OF THE BOX rifle sold on the market today. And I base that statement not upon conjecture, second hand exposure or any other factor OTHER than experiencing the accuracy of a number of different Savages that I now own.

i totally agree, they came a LONG ways... ive noticed they tend to be more accurate outta the box than remingon 700s lately.... drives me nuts... im a rem 700 footprint guy... and ol remmys falling behind imo.... ive seen tons of remington junk lately... tons of sloppy actions and barrels.... its a disappointment...

 

[boltfluter]

I would put a Tikka up against a Savage any day for out of the box accuracy. No disrespect to anyone. Lol. Just my personal opinion. ;D

Regards, Paul

www.boltfluting.com

 

[CaptainMal]

Never heard of a Timney Sav2 trigger. Will look into it.

Heard the Evolution trigger with action job is about a year's wait.

Builder called me last night. He is going to replace the trigger next week after I return from a trip.

This rifle is a custom rifle built with a Savage Dual-port target action. It is not factory. Appreciate the many comments. Something different could be in the works. That's future. There''s shooting to do now so this one has to get fixed. Hope the first 200 rds. are not indicative of the following.

 

[CharlieNC]

Sav2 trigger is by Rifle Basix, with more adjustability. The source of your problem may be the sear, which I understand is different on target models. It may not be in adequate alignment and thus imparting unbalanced stress on the trigger.