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Worked Ok After All......

I had a skinny carbon barrel give me fits a few weeks ago. I don't remember the brand, but it was .750 at the muzzle--often a recipe for disaster. Wasn't all that straight when I dialed it in, but the big problem was the bore size at the breech.

I use Grizzly rods with bushings to figure out what size to use on the reamer. Most barrels are larger at the breech then tighten a little around an inch in or so. This one, a 30 cal, was .2998 for the first half inch, then slowly jjjjopened up to .3004 at about 2".

I started chambering and checked after a half inch or so. Chatter all over the place. I went with a larger bushing which helped a little, but still had chatter. Went larger with the bushing again but still chatter.

We happened to have a second JGS 300 Norma reamer--ordered by mistake, so I grabbed that reamer and put the largest bushing I could--IIRC it was a .3004. That fixed it.

I threaded the muzzle and timed the brake, then sent the rifle over to be bedded, engraved, and cerakoted--I don't have to do that part. My boss--not knowing the troubles I'd had--took it out for load development. He shot it one time and decided he didn't have time to work on it any more--too much time out of the shop hunting I guess.

So I took it to the range for the next set of loads last Friday. I shoot better than my young boss anyway--as he admits. With the next loads he wanted to try, two different bullets, wound up shooting what look to be .3s. 3120ish with 212 ELDXs and 3040ish with 225 ELDMs. Both of those groups in obvious nodes.

That was out of a chassis, and I hate chassis. Chassis, heavier recoiling rifles, and light contour carbon barrels often don't work well together. Add to that all the chambering troubles and I was sure I was going to have to spin up another barrel. This one shoots great. Go figure......
 
I had a skinny carbon barrel give me fits a few weeks ago. I don't remember the brand, but it was .750 at the muzzle--often a recipe for disaster. Wasn't all that straight when I dialed it in, but the big problem was the bore size at the breech.

I use Grizzly rods with bushings to figure out what size to use on the reamer. Most barrels are larger at the breech then tighten a little around an inch in or so. This one, a 30 cal, was .2998 for the first half inch, then slowly jjjjopened up to .3004 at about 2".

I started chambering and checked after a half inch or so. Chatter all over the place. I went with a larger bushing which helped a little, but still had chatter. Went larger with the bushing again but still chatter.

We happened to have a second JGS 300 Norma reamer--ordered by mistake, so I grabbed that reamer and put the largest bushing I could--IIRC it was a .3004. That fixed it.

I threaded the muzzle and timed the brake, then sent the rifle over to be bedded, engraved, and cerakoted--I don't have to do that part. My boss--not knowing the troubles I'd had--took it out for load development. He shot it one time and decided he didn't have time to work on it any more--too much time out of the shop hunting I guess.

So I took it to the range for the next set of loads last Friday. I shoot better than my young boss anyway--as he admits. With the next loads he wanted to try, two different bullets, wound up shooting what look to be .3s. 3120ish with 212 ELDXs and 3040ish with 225 ELDMs. Both of those groups in obvious nodes.

That was out of a chassis, and I hate chassis. Chassis, heavier recoiling rifles, and light contour carbon barrels often don't work well together. Add to that all the chambering troubles and I was sure I was going to have to spin up another barrel. This one shoots great. Go figure......
Next time you start getting chatter wrap the reamer with wax paper. It may take a several tries but for whatever reason it will usually settle a reamer down.
 
Next time you start getting chatter wrap the reamer with wax paper. It may take a several tries but for whatever reason it will usually settle a reamer down.

Do you want the paper on the front part of the reamer, just the sides, or both? I have tried the patch trick before, with mixed results.
 
The wax paper was like magic on a reamer chattering for me. It even cleaned up the rest of it where it was almost an octagonal hole. @DaveTooley clued me in on it a few months ago. Maybe Dusty. I dunno, one of the two who knows a lot more about this than me.

I cut strips about as long as the exposed reamer and wrapped it so that the lathe spinning would tighten it on the reamer- like 2-3 layers deep.
 
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Since it's a seater die, it probably has a hole through it ~.001 over bullet diameter. Did you have a pilot bushing that fit?

Just curious.
Great question, I did not. They are actually hard to come by… a long wait because they are generally custom. I don’t know how much good they would do, as the reamer was sticking out on the Giraud pilots I’ve done.

I’ve done both seaters and Giraud trimmers with reamers from a different maker since then with no need for wax paper since then, however.

Edit: actually a little larger:
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