Windy shooting days

[Multiracer]

I have seen and heard of adding powder to get a bullet to cut through wind the wind but what about shrinking neck tension to create slightly more pressure before launch ?

 

[jimmymac]

Can’t cheat the wind!

 

[Tommie]

I have seen and heard of adding powder to get a bullet to cut through wind

No such thing.

 

[GetReal]

Once I get a load that shoots well I don't change it for conditions. Rather I anticipate the effect of the conditions on the good load I have to shoot

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Time of flight is different than speed(velocity of the bullet). Ways to reduce wind drift, get closer to the target and shoot into or with wind behind(reducing wind angle). Velocity, bullet weight and bc are lesser influences than actual wind speed or time of flight.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

You'd be hard pressed to see 300 fps faster on the target. Yeah, technically it might be a little better but if ya pull the trigger at the wrong time, there's just not a fix for that in a bottle or anything else. Wind flags are your best bet but they can only show ya what they feel and it can be a lot easier said than done, getting all shots down range without getting caught in a switch. The wind has been crazy here for the last few days. Tough to tune anything in this stuff.

 

[mgunderson]

Embrace the windy days. They are awesome learning. I giggle all the way to the range when it is windy. Wait longer between the shots and let the changes get bigger. That's how you get to be a better wind reader.

 

[jimmymac]

Embrace the windy days. They are awesome learning. I giggle all the way to the range when it is windy. Wait longer between the shots and let the changes get bigger. That's how you get to be a better wind reader.

This^^^^

I had plans to shoot today with a buddy at his place. He cancelled on me at the last minute. He said it was too windy. I went with Plan B at my local range. I got some solid work in picking my way through the garbage. It was a challenge today. Hold offs were interesting. Always learning.

 

[ebb]

I don't know about cheating the wind, but speed and BC, the more you have of each get less wind drift and more elevation. Run it on your ballistic program and see for yourself.

 

[K22]

In my experience, good luck with trying to "cheat" the wind by reloading. Learning to read it is the key to dealing with wind successfully. That's easier said than done but it's not impossible.

The way to learn how to deal with wind is to shoot in it using wind flags. I like to use 3: one at the firing line, one at mind range, and one at the target. I use surveyor's tape, but professional ones are better.

When varmint hunting, I try to wait for a lull in the wind before sending one down range. Again, this requires some range practice to develop the skill so as not to jerk the trigger during a lull and squeezing the shot off in between gusts.

Wind and mirage are part of the game in shooting. You can't control either so that leaves learning how to deal with it. As my DI once said to us recruits, "we fight wars in all weathers, so we train in all weathers." The principle applies to shooting / hunting. If all you ever did was wait for perfect weather, then you would spend most of your time in doors watching re-runs of Gunsmoke.

 

[Multiracer]

Great discussion and advice, Thank you.

 

[Bronsin]

My neck tension is based off of testing to give the widest window of accuracy no matter what the wind is doing. Higher velocity bullets still get blown around, just not as much. 150fps more out of my gun only requires 2 M.O.A. on the scope at 300 instead of 3 M.O.A. That velocity is doing something.

 

[rlporter507]

good read

https://www.amazon.com/Wind-Book-Rifle-Shooters/dp/1581605323?tag=accuratescom-20

 

[Schippergreg]

Can’t cheat the wind!

True, but if you can get a hot tune on a windy day it will cut through the wind better than a lighter tune. A load out of tune in the wind is a kite, regardless if it’s a light or a hot load.

 

[JFrank]

Guys my current load runs 2949 fps and shoots a 2.17 five shot group at 1k on Friday, Saturday& Sunday a 1 mph switch knocks it out of the box.
Listen to @jimmymac

 

[SKWERLZ]

I have seen and heard of adding powder to get a bullet to cut through wind the wind but what about shrinking neck tension to create slightly more pressure before launch ?

A voodoo doll is more effective at cheating the wind than adding some powder.

 

[jimmymac]

About the best any of us can do is tune the gun to the best of our abilities as @Schippergreg said and shoot the conditions that present themselves. The only thing I will add is that having good bullets and a good barrel helps a lot. I shot a couple small ones yesterday that I had no business pulling off considering the conditions.

 

[JFrank]

I really need to pick up on those tiny changes and make adjustments or wait, which is even tougher…
All my sighters were in the box where I felt confident on commence fire that they were solid but sadly the target told a different story.
I’m not spilling sour grapes rather trying to learn from a subtle pick up or let up to stay competitive.
A little more juice wouldn’t correct a mental error.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I really need to pick up on those tiny changes and make adjustments or wait, which is even tougher…
All my sighters were in the box where I felt confident on commence fire that they were solid but sadly the target told a different story.
I’m not spilling sour grapes rather trying to learn from a subtle pick up or let up to stay competitive.
A little more juice wouldn’t correct a mental error.

There is a limit to what you can see over 1k yards plus considering that distance not a lot of flags. Its were running and gunning came from. Just part of the 1000yd game. When I dabbled in 1000yd paper I was winning relays not matches by picking. Several long time good 1k guys told me it's very tough to pick your way to winning two targets in a row. They advised me to go with flow, they were right. 1000 steel I do much better at than paper. Blasting 10 out in 30 seconds is not my game. You must acvpet certian things in the 1k game I believe.

 

[Webster]

This^^^^

I had plans to shoot today with a buddy at his place. He cancelled on me at the last minute. He said it was too windy. I went with Plan B at my local range. I got some solid work in picking my way through the garbage. It was a challenge today. Hold offs were interesting. Always learning.

Tony Boyer said he would only practice if it was windy. The idea wasn't to shoot small groups but to learn to shoot small under real conditions you have to deal with in competition. If you don't practice in the wind your completley lost when you have to shoot under range conditions. Most short range competitors want to have the best aggregate not the 1 smallest group.