Winchester 280 Rem Brass

[Roystu]

I am having a hard time finding Winchester brass for the 280. Any thoughts on resizing 3006 brass?

 

[Sheldon N]

I run Remington headstamp brass in my 280AI, has been working fine for me. I've got 11 firings on my current cases.

 

[centershot]

I did not know that Winchester made .280.

 

[Shaggy357]

I am currently using -06 military brass in my -06AI, 280, 270, and 25-06. You have to be diligent in keeping your ammo boxes identified (black Sharpies are your friend) AND have load data inside (that is why most ammo boxes come with labels). I shoot some factory ammo in my guns, but mostly I shoot reloads. Lately, due to brass shortages and price gouging, I have been using military brass (5.56, .308, and .30-06) to make my own brass. Considerably less expensive and you learn more about your guns and reloading.

Steve

 

[Petros284]

Winchester brass in calibers other than 223/308/-06 etc are very limited. Remington 280 is good, but I would get yourself some Nosler 280 Rem Brass. Yes it costs more, but it is of great quality and you will get many firings out of it. That way you don't have to neck down an -06 and trim, etc.

 

[Tom Baker]

I am having a hard time finding Winchester brass for the 280. Any thoughts on resizing 3006 brass?

You can use .06 brass, sure. I've always thought 270 Win. brass was better for the 280 though. I use them for both the 280 and the 280AI. I admit I had a bag of 500 primed 270 Win. cases though, a little sorting and weighing and they worked fine.

 

[DocDoc]

You can use .06 brass, sure. I've always thought 270 Win. brass was better for the 280 though. I use them for both the 280 and the 280AI. I admit I had a bag of 500 primed 270 Win. cases though, a little sorting and weighing and they worked fine.

I like Tom's choice of .270 brass for the .280 and .280 AI over .30-06 brass. .280 is 2.540 in., the .280 AI is 2.525 in.
.30-06 is 2.494 in.
.270 win is 2.540 in.

 

[jbarnwell]

Winchester does make 280 brass, but beware it is nickel plated.

 

[Roystu]

Thanks for all the replies. I didn't think about necking up the 270. I have plenty!

 

[Roystu]

You can use .06 brass, sure. I've always thought 270 Win. brass was better for the 280 though. I use them for both the 280 and the 280AI. I admit I had a bag of 500 primed 270 Win. cases though, a little sorting and weighing and they worked fine.

The shoulder difference of .051 between the two. Does this fire form on the first firing?

 

[Defty]

The shoulder difference of .051 between the two. Does this fire form on the first firing?

Check you mail box. Post sent.

 

[Tom Baker]

The shoulder difference of .051 between the two. Does this fire form on the first firing?

I just expand the neck to .30 cal., run it into a full length 280 die enough where the false shoulder will let it chamber, just barely, and shoot it. Works fine, I've never lost a case, whether in a standard .280 or the .280AI.

 

[Shaggy357]

.30-06 to 280 in one firing. When all are formed, I will trim and anneal. Load is hot enough to form the brass and to use on deer or hogs.

 

[JRS]

Buy Norma brass. Bullets.com has it on sale right now.

 

[fguffey]

I understand this thread goes back a few years: I wonder how a 30/06 case can be a parent case for the 280 Remington? The 280 Remington is .051" longer from the shoulder to the case head, I understand there are those that think that is nothing but a small step in the case forming process, but, when fired the case must expand to fill the chamber when forming the case body. Again, I know reloaders believe the shoulder on the 30/06 moves forward, I know that is impossible, again the shoulder on the 30/06 case does not move, the 280 Remington shoulder when formed is a new shoulder that was formed from the part of the shoulder of the 30/06 and part of the shoulder of the 30/06 became part of the case body.

And then there is that argument about longer/shorter: When fired the neck of the case was pulled back meaning the case has no choice but to shorten from the end of the neck to the case head. And then there is that 'longer part' that reloaders do not understand, when measured from the new shoulder to the case head the case increased in length .051".

Keeping up? Before forming and firing the the reloader is already .041" behind/short; after the case forms the new shoulder and adds to the length of the case from the case head to the shoulder the reloader looses another .030" in case length. I am not the fan of short cases, I want my cases to cover the chamber.

To start with, the 270 case is the same length as the 280 Remington case, I believe the 270 would be a better choice but the formed and fired case is not going to cover the chamber.

F. Guffey

 

[Eddie Harren]

I understand this thread goes back a few years: I wonder how a 30/06 case can be a parent case for the 280 Remington? The 280 Remington is .051" longer from the shoulder to the case head, I understand there are those that think that is nothing but a small step in the case forming process, but, when fired the case must expand to fill the chamber when forming the case body. Again, I know reloaders believe the shoulder on the 30/06 moves forward, I know that is impossible, again the shoulder on the 30/06 case does not move, the 280 Remington shoulder when formed is a new shoulder that was formed from the part of the shoulder of the 30/06 and part of the shoulder of the 30/06 became part of the case body.

And then there is that argument about longer/shorter: When fired the neck of the case was pulled back meaning the case has no choice but to shorten from the end of the neck to the case head. And then there is that 'longer part' that reloaders do not understand, when measured from the new shoulder to the case head the case increased in length .051".

Keeping up? Before forming and firing the the reloader is already .041" behind/short; after the case forms the new shoulder and adds to the length of the case from the case head to the shoulder the reloader looses another .030" in case length. I am not the fan of short cases, I want my cases to cover the chamber.


You can beat this horse as long as you want guffey but, it aint going to get any deader than you have already "kilt" it!




To start with, the 270 case is the same length as the 280 Remington case, I believe the 270 would be a better choice but the firmed and fired case is not going to cover the chamber.

F. Guffey

 

[Brians356]

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