Wilson seater VS reddin comp seater?

[TrxR]

All my loading will be done at home.

 

[Steve Blair]

Get a press, don't try to do it by hand.

I personally like the Wilson because I preload for matches. I take my die and press with me and re-seat bullets in hotel room before the match.

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This is a strange ritual that Erik practices before every match. I think it's some kind of superstition. [br]
He's right about the press, though. You can also use a drill press in a pinch but get yourself a decent, small arbor press and you will not regret it.

 

[fdshuster]

"The Wilson is cheaper". Just to straighten out a pricing error, not true. Sinclair 2012-B catalog, page 55: Wilson chamber type bullet seater, non micrometer top $49.95. $97.95 with micro top. Page 52: Forster bench rest seater die, non micrometer top $46.99. $71.95 with micro top.

"The advantage to the Wilson is I can leave my sizing die setup and am not changing dies out all the time". If you mean screwing one die out of the press (sizer) & screwing in another (seater), that takes all of a few seconds. Takes me more time than that to setup the arbor press, take the Wilson seater out of the storage box, etc. etc. then put everything away when done.

And a final comment about screwing dies in and out of the press. When finished using a die, like the sizer, I always remove it from the press, give the inside surfaces a cleaning to remove any sizing lube ( Imperial die sizing wax), dry it out & put it away in the factory box. My dies are never left in the press(s).
Guess that's why I had a hard time understanding your "changing out" the dies.

 

[foxc57]

Here is a good write up comparing different seating dies.

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/reloading-seating-die-runout.html

 

[Martin52]

One other thing I do is I have an optical comparitor available to my so I have my seating stems reground to my bullet of choice profile, seems to make seating depth variences much less and no bullets sticking in the stem.
Wayne.

Do you reground seating stems commercially ? I would like to try one for the Sierra 2156 in my Wilson seater die.

Martin

 

[bozo699]

One other thing I do is I have an optical comparitor available to my so I have my seating stems reground to my bullet of choice profile, seems to make seating depth variences much less and no bullets sticking in the stem.
Wayne.

Do you reground seating stems commercially ? I would like to try one for the Sierra 2156 in my Wilson seater die.

Martin

No Martin I have a old machinist friend of mine here at work do it for me, he puts in on the comparitor then takes the stem and does his majic to it but he did tell me in the old days he used to take the bullet he wanted to use and chuck the stem in a drill and put lapping compound on the bullet and lap it in said it worked pretty good.
Wayne.

 

[Martin52]

No Martin I have a old machinist friend of mine here at work do it for me, he puts in on the comparitor then takes the stem and does his majic to it but he did tell me in the old days he used to take the bullet he wanted to use and chuck the stem in a drill and put lapping compound on the bullet and lap it in said it worked pretty good.
Wayne.

I'll try that, thanks Wayne.

 

[Joe O]

Interested in maximum accuracy, when loading, as much as any rifleman,however I load in high volume 1-4K with 20cal Varmint bullets for the most part.I use a Vickerman seater w/o the Micrometer top for all my seating.Been around off and on for a long time,some may remember.I got hooked in the 50s.


http://www.gmwvickerman.com/

 

[AlNyhus]

TRX, do yourself a favor and get a Type S f.l. bushing die and a standard (non micrometer top) Wilson seater. As stated earlier, the seating stem on a Wilson seater moves .040 for each full revolution....it's easy to adjust your seating depth. When you find the seating depth that works best for you, simply measure the o.a.l. of the seater top as your reference. Takes less time to do it than it took me to write this...haha!

For a small arbor press, Grizzly has the Bald Eagle: http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Arbor-Press/BE1001
And the K&M is my favorite: http://www.kmshooting.com/catalog/arbor-press/arbor-press.html

A slick little press for the range is the RCBS Partner press.

Good shootin'. -Al

 

[Lazydays]

Whats the pros and cons of each for .223 used in F/TR? Also is the micrometer version worth the extra on the Wilson?

Thanks

I don't use the Redding comp seater, but use the Forster micrometer seater and also the Wilson setup with a K&M press. I like the feel from the arbor press when seating bullets, and also like the way it neck sizes the .223 cases. Accuracey wise I don't see a tremendous amount in difference. Maybe .0005" TIR max. Both seem to be similar in seating depths, and I think the micrometer head on the Forster is a little more accurate in it's moves (I use the Sinclair head on the Wilson die.). I honestly prefer to use shims with the Wilson rather than use the micrometer head, and have proven this with my .222 and 6mm's
gary