So, one day I jumped back into the boutique round/dumb guy pool and bought everything I needed for a 6mm ARC. As the title notes I have questions about what/why Hornady does what they do. The point is when I bought Hornady dies for the 6mm ARC the seating stem is just some kind of generic stem with a hole in it. It dents the bullets when I seat them. Hornady says if you plan to shoot high BC bullets you need to spend another $40.00 on a ELD stem. Considering the 6mm ARC is supposed to be a long range round from an AR, I would have thought that the dies would reflect that. And, not include a seating stem made for stumps.
Why does Hornady do this?
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I didn't even read the post. When I saw the title I knew the answer.....
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jackieschmidt
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The simple answer is just buy Redding
AGREED,.The simple answer is just buy Redding
and IF, Forster DOESN'T Make Dies for IT,. I DON'T / won't,. Build, a Rifle For,.. IT !
I like,.. Forster Dies,. BEST !
Hornady's Cart design's And,. ELD-M' Bullets,. however,.. ARE, Pretty,.. "Good",. IMO
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Just Drill a Hole in the Stem DEEPER and "Lap" the Stem ( chucked up, in a Lathe / Drill ) with, Lapping Compound On, a High BC, Bullet.
Give ‘em a call and twist their arm a little with your concerns.
I have bought a few sets of Lee dies, but honestly, they take second fiddle to my Redding dies. I used to load 6.5 Grendel with the Lee Pacemaker set, but I replaced them with Redding equivilants, and get a micrometer seater out of it.
The one thing I do like in Lee dies is the generic decapper, I have used it for much of my decapping. It has a small expander ball that doesn't touch my necks.
Wolfdog91
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Well for the $100 extra your spending on them id hope the $45 set would be second fiddle
Honestly though the Redding does I have for my .17-5.56 KAK are absolutely amazing....but for $150 they honestly better be
I bought the standard 6mm ARC dies. They are the problem.
I just looked at my set and it came with both. I looked at both and they were about the same depth and width which I found odd as I figured the standard would be more shallow.
How much neck tension do you have on your brass?
Well for the $100 extra your spending on them id hope the $45 set would be second fiddle
Honestly though the Redding does I have for my .17-5.56 KAK are absolutely amazing....but for $150 they honestly better be
No, actually it wasn't. I bought the 2 die set for 6.5 Grendel which was about $50 on sale. It didn't have a micrometer, but the price was not much more than the Pacemaker set. Later I bought the micrometer for it when Midway had a sale, and I got that for about $40. My Pacemaker set was about $30 on sale. The Pacemaker set is a great value, but I just prefer the Redding and have mostly Redding dies for all of my loads. Yes, the 2 dies and micrometer did cost more, but not $150 as stated. I like the micrometer!
Does Lee offer a micrometer for their seating dies?
And here's why the micrometer works better for me.
Both the non-micrometer and the micrometer and about the same to adjust. But let's say I seat too far, then I need to pull the bullet and re-seat it. Having the micrometer takes me less tries as I can pretty much see how far it's adjusting, where the non-micrometer doesn't show me that. For that reason, it saves me time in the end, and if you consider that you need to pull and re-seat a bullet, that's a PITA, for me.
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor seating die from Hornady I got from someone else and it has a micrometer. It's their match grade set. This is what I have, not trying to fool anyone on price or product. This is not a bad die for free! LOL
You can see I have several 6.5 Creedmoor dies, but 2 sets were traded for here on AS. I only have 2 sets of Lee Pacemakers, 6.5 Grendel and 300 blackout, both of which have been replaced with Redding equivilants.
One thing I do like about the Hornady seating dies is the seater portion which moves up/down, not sure why but I like the sound it makes...LOL
Both the non-micrometer and the micrometer and about the same to adjust. But let's say I seat too far, then I need to pull the bullet and re-seat it. Having the micrometer takes me less tries as I can pretty much see how far it's adjusting, where the non-micrometer doesn't show me that. For that reason, it saves me time in the end, and if you consider that you need to pull and re-seat a bullet, that's a PITA, for me.
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor seating die from Hornady I got from someone else and it has a micrometer. It's their match grade set. This is what I have, not trying to fool anyone on price or product. This is not a bad die for free! LOL
You can see I have several 6.5 Creedmoor dies, but 2 sets were traded for here on AS. I only have 2 sets of Lee Pacemakers, 6.5 Grendel and 300 blackout, both of which have been replaced with Redding equivilants.
One thing I do like about the Hornady seating dies is the seater portion which moves up/down, not sure why but I like the sound it makes...LOL
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