Which 30BR bullets?

[Treegunner]

My Hart barrel,1-18 twist) chambered with a Robinnet reamer, zero freebore and .330 neck should be done in a couple weeks and now I need bullets.

I have e-mailed Randy but apparently there is a long wait.

Has anyone tried the Speer TNT 125 gr or any other readily available bullets that work well in this config?

Any and all advice is appreciated,
Thanks in advance.
Jim

 

[tightneck]

I use the TNT in a 17 twist with excellent results. 59 clicks of H4198 is a reltively mild load and will almost shoot with the customs. I don't think they are quite "Match Quality", but for practice or varmints I think they are hard to beat. I've had no luck with Randy's 10 ogive bullets in this configuation but 7 ogives work well.

 

[eww1350]

Try the Berger 110 grain 30 caliber match bullets from Extreme Accuracy.com..available at $22 per box,100).Good prices and a very good bullet out of the 18 twist barrel...I have shot many sub .200 inch groups with 34 grains of H4198...


Good Luck...

 

[Forum Boss]

If you can't wait for Randy Robinett's BIBS,
Allie Euber makes 30-cal match bullets for the 30BR now, as does Ronnie Cheek, and Brady Knight. All excellent choices.

Euber Bullets
No. Orwell Road
Orwell, VT 05760
Phone:,802) 948-2621
The Eubers have done very well in competition lately.

Brady Knight
344-227-4567

Ronnie Cheek
5002 Meadow Drive
Abilene TX 79606
,325)698-1318
http://rcheek.com

 

[WayneShaw]

There is someone in Wisconsin that bought Guy Chism's dies that is selling bullets now. Problem is, I don't know the name!

When Chism made his bullets, they were hard to beat. Can someone post the name of who is making his bullets?

 

[Forum Boss]

This is from Benchrest Central:

"Ten X bullets are excellent call Dick Baeir 920-410-3400.These are the bullets made with Guy Chism's bullet dies.Usually fast delivery time.They make a great 120gr. bullet on either .925 or 1" jackets.

Paul Tolvstad
Rock Creek Barrels"

 

[Treegunner]

Wow guys, Thanks for the great info, I believe I can find some bullets fast. Now I just need to figure out what to start with.

I am thinking of getting 1.00" 118gr with a 10 ogive. I would hate to buy a bunch and them not produce.

Thanks
Jim

 

[RGRobinett]

Treegunner,
I regret not being able to meet your time-line needs. However, as pointed out here, there are many very good bullets available.
During our correspondence, I hope that I pointed out that, for the Hart 1:18", you will probably be much happier using bullets based upon the .925" long jacket; the Hart barrels run closer the 18.5" twist.For the bullets based upon the 1.00" long jacket, a TRUE 1:18" or slightly faster is desirable - especially in winter,cold - like 10 Deg. F and less)and/or sea level conditions. At sea level, standard conditions,59 Deg. F, 50% Humidity, 29.95" Hg) a TRUE 1:18" twist barrel produces a gyroscopic stability factor,Sg) of about 1.43 for a FB bullet with an OAL of 1.04". With the 1.0" bullets, Sg via the 18.5 twist will probably be down around 1.2 - in summer conditions, not a train wreck, but you'll have to be a wind doping god to keep things "working" during conditions. Good shootin'! R.G.

 

[Treegunner]

Oh No, "wind doping god"? I have the "dope" part down pat, but not the wind god part.

Man I hate investing money in things that make my life trickier... Thanks for the heads-up though.

I guess I will go with the .925 118gr 7 ogive.

does that sound good?

Thanks in advance.
Jim

 

[RGRobinett]

Jim, yes, any bullet weight based upon the .925" long jacket will be fine: these bullets will probably range from 7 - 8 caliber ogive configurations. I make a seven ogive version of 123 Gr., which a few people swear by - and one could probably go up to 125 Gr. or so. Though I have not had my hands on one, I am told that Ronnie Cheeks 118 is based upon the .925" long jacket -they have a very good reputation. What would one expect from Euber Bullets - except the best: I have not gotten my paws on any of them either, so cannot speak to their configuration,s).

The key here: generally, button barrels feature "nominal" twist rates - the actual rate may or may not be as stamped on the butt - it ALWAYS pays to check what you got . . . and match the proper bullet LENGTH! Cut barrels should be "right on" and can generally be cut to the 1/10th,0.10"). Once the twist rate assures at least a 1.4 Sg, never hurts to err on the slightly faster side - especially with BR quality bullets.

Generally, bullets based upon the "short" jacket will weigh from 110 Gr. upward; I made a few as light as 95 Gr., but could see no precision gain. I believe that for a true [tangent]seven ogive nose, 105 to 110GR. is the practical low end. Good shootin'! R.G.

 

[Steve Ladino]

My Hart barrel,1-18 twist) chambered with a Robinnet reamer, zero freebore and .330 neck should be done in a couple weeks and now I need bullets.

I have e-mailed Randy but apparently there is a long wait.

Has anyone tried the Speer TNT 125 gr or any other readily available bullets that work well in this config?

Any and all advice is appreciated,
Thanks in advance.
Jim

I shoot the 125 TNT's and have for a while now, at 200 yds. this week I lost one point and at 300 I lost one point, at 400 yds I lost ten points , same relay for all three distances. The winning score was 140 shot by a 6 dasher or 22 BR I believe, anyway not a 30 cal. Although some consider my range to be possessed there are some condition difficulties. I believe the TNT 's could be a little slow at longer distances and maybe are effected negatively by the wind more so. I segregated the TNT's but it made no difference.
My .30 is a cut 17 Krieger, RR chamber. I use a barrel tuner and that made it possible to shoot the TNT's into one hole at 100yds.
As cheap as they are why don't you just try some? The 118 / 10 ogive R Robinett bullets shoot very well in my rifle but I enjoy tinkering with the TNT's even though they are not of Randy's quality. Probably the R R 118's being 1 inch plus long compared to the TNT"s at .947 do have a higher BC and likely retain a higher velocity. I run the 125's at 2950, about as fast as I can get them and the 118's a good bit over 3000 fps.

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

Also... I would stay away from the "59 clicks" tight group mentioned, and go with a weighted measuring system till you know how your 59 clicks measures up to his 59 clicks. General rule of thumb is those 112-118's like between 3000-3050 fps.... With my experiences of the sweet spot being at the top and bottom of that spectrum.

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

one more thing.... try to buy a handful of those BIB on the .925" jacket and when you shoot them, and like them, go ahead and place an order for next years season. Stay 1 year ahead, and you will always have BIB's to shoot.

 

[tmwinds]

Might want to try Randy again since this thread is 11 years old.

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

Might want to try Randy again since this thread is 11 years old.

Oops.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I wonder if that guy ever got some bullets?

 

[LHSmith]

Might want to try Randy again since this thread is 11 years old.

My bet is his backlog is much greater nowadays.....but you never know -he may have partial lots you can try.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Randy makes some nice 30cals as does barts bullets. I use both and not really considering any other brand.