which 22-250 bullet?

[shakewell519]

Hi, I have a 22-250 with a 1 in 12" twist. Which grain bullets bullets and types should I be using to shoot paper for accuracy?

 

[jofus]

i have a savage with a 1-12 and it shoots the 60 grain v-max really well with 35.3 grains varget. also shoots the 50 grain speers and 52 grain sierras with 37grains varget 50's and 36.1 grains varget 52's. all 3 bullets and powder combos shoot in the 2's and 3's.

 

[rcool]

Has anyone tried shooting a heavier bullet,like the 69 gr matchking or the 70 gr berger vld) in their 22-250 with a 1-12 twist?

 

[rcool]

I know what the manuals say. I am asking if anyone has any real life experience.

 

[billmo]

rcool, trust Catshooter. He is absolutely right. I have owned 22-250 rifles with 1-12 Twist and they would not stabilize the heavier bullets. And the farther you try to shoot them the more they become erratic. Bill

 

[billmo]

Take notes Catshooter and just ignore the smart asses next time. Bill

 

[rcool]

I guess this forum isn't open for discussion. Catshooter has the t-shirt that says, "I can quote a reloading manual." That makes him the authority around here. Don't ask about real life experience, someone might get offended.

 

[billmo]

If he makes a statement you can bank on it. He's probably forgot more than a lot of us will ever learn about shooting and handloading. I would consider their feelings and respect those that really know because there are some that don't and will tell you anything you want to hear. Just my opinion and yes I know what they all say about opinions. Bill

 

[rcool]

Well, Bill, I appreciate your input and advice. I was curious about the heavier bullets and you helped answer my question.

 

[trappst]

rcool,

I'm guessing your're shooting a Savage b/c of the 12 twist. Doesn't really matter but here's some food for thought.

Stabilizing a bullet has more to do with length/profile than it does actual bullet weight. Meaning a short/heavy bullet will not need as much twist as long/sleek bullet of the same weight.

Some folks over at the Savage forum did a test on several different bullets in the 12 twist barrels.....69g Hornady or Sierra won't work.....I've tried the Hornady's myself. Speer makes a 70g,or close to that) that WILL work in the 12 twist. Sierra's 65g Gameking will also work in the 12 twist.

If you'll look at the 65g Sierra and the Speer, you'll notice they have a fairly blunt profile compared to the 69g Matchking. If you're seriously wanting to shoot the heavier match style bullets, you'll need a faster twist......

Swapping barrels on a Savage is a piece of cake if ya didn't know.

HTH

 

[rcool]

trappst,

Thanks for the 65 gr Sierra tip. I'll give those a try.

 

[jb77]

Rcool you are getting good advice. Load a few up and try them even if they don't work you get to sit down at the bench.

I hate it that you have upset Kittyshooter,and he had been playing so well with the others in the sandbox, hahaha).

You may not agree with his approach but you can tell from his posts that he is knowledgeable. From my experience he likes to jerk a few chains to see what kinda reaction he will get from you.

The stabilization of a bullet has a lot to do with its lenght, generally speaking as you near the edge of the envelope for twist rates vs weight of the bullet the shorter bullets tend to stabilize better than the longer bullets of the same weight.

Load some of the heavier bullets up and try them in your rifle and see what they do and let us know how they worked for you. We are interested in your results.

P.S. don't let Catshooter get your goat, he will grow on you after awhile and you may even think a lot of his posts are funny and informative.

 

[jb77]

Catshooter I am still laughing about the "pigeon" post.

 

[people]

If you want to try then try. If you want to shoot those heavy slugs you really need a faster twist.

 

[284driver]

60 grn sierra hp's shoot extremely well in my 22250 with 35.9 grains of 4064 behind them. this is a factory remington vssf, 12twist. it shoots sub .5 with this load. i havent chronied it, but do get pressure signs if i go any hotter.

 

[Skunce]

I have the LRPV in 22-250 with a 1-12 barrel and it shoots the 69gr MatchKing very well. I fact it shoots that bullet better than any other that I've tried so far. I'm using IMR4350 powder.

 

[Bronsin]

It was just mentioned, but Sierra's 60gr HP is an excellent bullet. I also have a favorite load in my .223 with Sierra's 55gr BTHP. Both of these bullets shoot at match grade levels for a hunting bullet.
I also hear good things about Hornady's 60gr HP, but haven't used it. Berger also makes some match bullets between 60 and 64grs.

Best of luck!

 

[jraney]

hey fellas i have about the same problem but i have no idea
of the twist in my encore how do i figure it out. and tell me
slow twist for short bullets and fast for long basically,right?
could use some more advice thanks.

jraney

 

[jraney]

alsao same problem with my H&R in .223 . thanks

 

[Preacher]

jraney--
Lock the rifle down in a vise or whatever and put a tight fitting patch on a good cleaning rod,one with a swivel handle) hunt up a tape measure,place a mark on the cleaning rod handle, and start the cleaning rod into the bore. Line the tape measure up along side of the barrel and push the cleaning rod through the barrel while keeping a eye out on the cleaning rod mark. When it makes 1 complete revolution, look at the tape measure and notice how long it took to make that 360 degree's--that will be your twist rate.
Do it a few times to be sure......