What the hell????

[DirtySteve]

1) Check to make sure your action screws are tight.
2) check to make sure you scope base screws are tight.
3)check you rings and make sure everything is tight.
4) Check you make sure your barrel is free floating...

Some thing is a miss..

Still Suggesting this!!!! Some thing is wrong if all this checks out it is the scope..

 

[L W P]

Yep I agree something is wrong. Never seen a 6.5 Creedmoor shoot that bad. Even though I've never tried RL-17, I use H-4350 and RL-16. I have heard that RL-17 does not like temperature changes from morning shoots to mid day shooting. If that's your best load development, being crimped, from the start then I don't think that you pursued it very much.

 

[L W P]

Have you chronographed the loads that are crimped to see if they were close in velocity? And then the same with no crimp. Your loads should have at least low S/D's in the double digit range(20-10). The goal would be single digits but in this case at least 20's to start.

 

[L W P]

I would maybe suggest you trying some factory ammo to see if it shoots better or worse. I would buy a box of Good Match ammo, such as Prime Ammo or another high quality load to try. For comparison

 

[Brians356]

Parallax maybe?

Not thinking it accounts for the OPs issue - in toto. But parallax is possibly the least understood and, therefore, one of the most neglected aspects of precision shooting. Here's the proper way IMO to adjust out parallax error - few will be familiar with it:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...ld-forum-members.3933141/page-2#post-37050498
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[22BRGUY]

Not thinking it accounts for the OPs issue - in toto. But parallax is possibly the least understood and, therefore, one of the most neglected aspects of precision shooting. Here's the proper way IMO to adjust out parallax error - few will be familiar with it:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...ld-forum-members.3933141/page-2#post-37050498
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GREAT ADVICE Brian....I was just thinking back many years ago when I was not familiar with parallax at all and was trying to shoot an old 3x9 scope with fixed 100 yard parallax and no adjustment at 300 yards and you can imagine my frustration when just about nothing seemed to work in my reloading efforts.

 

[Brians356]

GREAT ADVICE Brian....I was just thinking back many years ago when I was not familiar with parallax at all and was trying to shoot an old 3x9 scope with fixed 100 yard parallax and no adjustment at 300 yards and you can imagine my frustration when just about nothing seemed to work in my reloading efforts.

The thing about parallax error is that if you could repeatedly center your eye perfectly behind the ocular, it becomes irrelevant. So scope parallax adjustment is more critical for certain shooters than for others. It also helps explain why point of impact can shift so much when two different people shoot the same rifle. It's not always all due to how they grip the rifle or pull the trigger.
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[22BRGUY]

The thing about parallax error is that if you could repeatedly center your eye perfectly behind the ocular, it becomes irirrelevant. So scope parallax adjustment is more critical for certain shooters than for others. It also helps explain why point of impact can shift so much when two different people shoot the same rifle. It's not always all due to how they grip the rifle or pull the trigger.
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10-4 Brian.....add a bit of inconsistent trigger pull and a bit of wind and perhaps a little inconsistent cheek pressure or ???...and VOILA!! I only know this because I've gone through all these little errors before and they DO ad up.
It may be crimping vs non crimping but it seems unlikely to me is all.
Best Wishes to the OP....this is just how many of us learn.

I'm NOT dumber than everybody else.....it just takes me longer to learn than everybody else.....I think

 

[Ccrider]

Not thinking it accounts for the OPs issue - in toto. But parallax is possibly the least understood and, therefore, one of the most neglected aspects of precision shooting. Here's the proper way IMO to adjust out parallax error - few will be familiar with it:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...ld-forum-members.3933141/page-2#post-37050498
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I ran across this thread a while back. Man did it make shooting life easier.