What is Your Definition of an Accurate Rifle?

[JFrank]

Anyone remember Rick Graham
10 shot WR

 

[Bc'z]

Should I consider this 300 yard group
1- Accurate
2- precise
3- shit house luck

All of the above brother.

 

[dgeesaman]

Should I consider this 300 yard group
1- Accurate
2- precise
3- shit house luck

"A little of this, a little of that"

 

[JFrank]

"A little of this, a little of that"

And a whole lotta of #3

 

[skeeljc]

I will admit that I have confused the terms accuracy and precision. Here is the best comparison I have found:

 

[seymour fish]

Is accuracy the same as precision?

Precision is Precisely Placed

 

[Richard Coody]

For me first one is precision. With my target rifles i don't want to shoot out my aiming point. I know any time i want i can dial into the bullseye.

Next is accurate and precise. My hunting rifles have to be accurate but not as precise as my target rifles.

 

[butchlambert]

You can sure see it is winter time. You need to be in your shop trying to overcome your precision and accuracy problems, not on the forum.

 

[NorCalMikie]

My opinion of an Accurate Rifle? A rig that will print a 5 shot group that can be covered with a dime. Adjust from there.

 

[jimmymac]

You can sure see it is winter time. You need to be in your shop trying to overcome your precision and accuracy problems, not on the forum.

...says the man who came on the forum to inform people they shouldn’t be on the forum.

 

[skeeljc]

So a rifle can be considered "Precision" if it can shoot one hole groups and "Accurate" if it can hit the point of aim.

So the bench rest guys are really "Precision" shooters?

It must then follow that the Precision Rifle Shooters are both accurate and precise.

 

[BartsBullets]

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Anyone remember Rick Graham
10 shot WR

That’s a 5 Group 10 shot agg of .1990 Very nice!

I shot a .1797 5 Group 10 shot agg at Riverbend. Problem is the Range Officer forgot to turn the moving backer on for the first target. The Head of the measuring Committee told me he measured the targets and I indeed shattered the record, but he could not send it forward for measurementbecause they couldn’t count 10 shots in the moving backer of the first target.

Oh Well! I’d call that gun Accuurate!

Bart

 

[6MMsteve]

My Def is >>>bug hole shooter

 

[JFrank]

That’s a 5 Group 10 shot agg of .1990 Very nice!

I shot a .1797 5 Group 10 shot agg at Riverbend. Problem is the Range Officer forgot to turn the moving backer on for the first target. The Head of the measuring Committee told me he measured the targets and I indeed shattered the record, but he could not send it forward for measurementbecause they couldn’t count 10 shots in the moving backer of the first target.

Oh Well! I’d call that gun Accuurate!

Bart
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Me Too”
So at the time we’re you a runner or a picker?

 

[Deleted outa08]

Should I consider this 300 yard group
1- Accurate
2- precise
3- shit house luck

If your gun will do that constantly -1&2
If only once-3
Most of my record groups fall into category #3

 

[Uthink Uknow]

Is this accurate or precise or precisely accurate?

 

[Rsadams]

One that will outshoot my ability , that's about all anyone can ask for....

 

[RGRobinett]

So a rifle can be considered "Precision" if it can shoot one hole groups and "Accurate" if it can hit the point of aim.

So the bench rest guys are really "Precision" shooters?

It must then follow that the Precision Rifle Shooters are both accurate and precise.

Point-blank BR competitors may/must be both - especially in score (Hunter & VfS).

In IBS/NBRSA group shooting, precision is the only concern: a group anywhere inside the borders is good - most often, the group is centered deliberately away from ones aiming-point. Moving backers assure correct shot-count. After the first shot, accurate placement, relative to THAT shot, comes into play.

For IBS/NBRSA Hunter & VfS [score] shooting, a precision rifle is used to accurately place shots: the X-ring is 1/16Th inch diameter; the ten-ring 1/2". A single shot is fired at each record bull. Naturally, the target is proportionally expanded with range. Regrettably, the wind-drift, at 200 Yd., relative to the same increment, at 100 Yd., increases by a factor of 6! Per MPH of constant velocity & vector, at 1 MPH, that's about 0.060" at 100, and 0.36" at 200 Yd. - beyond 100 Yd., Xez are not exactly eazy. (Note: visualize how this also applies to shooting groups!)

In point-blank BR, It is getting to where, a truly 1/4inch (almost MOA, but slightly better!) rifle won't get you sympathy from even your best pals . . . since 1977, when I began shooting in registered BR events, precision requirements have changed. RG

 

[BartsBullets]

Me Too”
So at the time we’re you a runner or a picker?

For that aggregate a little of each! If you’re going to be a good shooter you’ve got to be more than a one trick pony. You’ve got to learn when to run, when to pick, when to hit the brakes and when to start.

My favorite is to run and just hold for the condition as it picks up.

Bart

 

[GSPV]

Is accuracy the same as precision?

In a formal sense they are related, but different things.

Precise would be a great group. Accurate would be where you were aiming.