What I learned from my weekend shooting with Tubb

[urbanrifleman]

This is what I learned.

1. David Tubb is on a whole other level.
2. His system works. You really need the whole system. Rifle, cartridge, scope, mounted laser, and mounted chronograph.
3. In many ways his reticle system obsoletes a lot of systems. I was moving from target to targets from 350, to 800, back to 600, to 1200 and head shots were boring.
4. I can't make ammo as good as he makes, and to make ammo like his I would have to spend about 3 to 5 grand. If I were a serious shooter his 2 dollar ammo might be cheaper than making it myself in the long run.
5. The Tubb Adaptive rifle shoots like a dream . His brake is insane. His trigger is amazing. His new grip is amazing
6. The Tubb Adaptive Rifle, as a feat of practical engineering, is shocking how much better than all this other stuff. I know that will not make me popular saying that, but his rifle is not an improved Mauser. It's a whole other thing.

Im sure there will be those that will have nothing nice to say, but that's only because they haven't seen it for themselves.

 

[urbanrifleman]

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[urbanrifleman]

Oh, I forgot about his bipod. His bipod is just superior. It looks so stupid... But man does it work.

 

[urbanrifleman]

On the dog town.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Oh, we were shooting the 33xc 2000 yards in that picture. I was calling the wind

 

[Aero]

About 10 years ago, I was part of a group that had the opportunity to spend a weekend at that ranch with Mr. Tubb. We spent one day at the shop in town and the next day we shot on the range you have pictured with Tubb 2000 rifles chambered in 6XC. What an experience! And as you say, he is on a different level.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

You cant argue with his success in his game thats for sure.

 

[dolek]

Sounds like a great way to spend the weekend,learning and using His system must be a real eye opener . The rifle has always interested me,he sure is not afraid to experiment,I admire that.

 

[Rtheurer]

I have nothing nice to say.. So I said it.

 

[dolek]

I have nothing nice to say.. So I said it.

...and nobody cared.

 

[Rustytigwire]

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Oh, we were shooting the 33xc 2000 yards in that picture. I was calling the wind

Great write up. I have been watching for it. A look at "how to do it right" is always a pleasure.
Thanks!

 

[jimmymac]

Good write up! Had to be a great experience.

I’m interested in #4. Why can’t you make ammo as good as Tubb without spending 3 to 5 thousand? That really caught my attention. Thanks.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Good write up! Had to be a great experience.

I’m interested in #4. Why can’t you make ammo as good as Tubb without spending 3 to 5 thousand? That really caught my attention. Thanks.

His ammo trickles to within 2 kernels (that is kernels) of H4350 (so that is a scale and trickler right there). His pre seating die uses a load cell to determine seating pressure and then all ammo is sorted into lots based on seating pressure. Final seating is a separate station. It is all PLC controlled.

And he only uses virgin Peterson brass. We were shooting SPR with Remington 7.5 primers.

His powder is stabilized (his own post processing) and is treated with Tubb Dust too.

 

[urbanrifleman]

His ammo was running 115 DTACS at 3200 FPS and SD of about 4.

 

[dolek]

His ammo trickles to within 2 kernels (that is kernels) of H4350 (so that is a scale and trickler right there). His pre seating die uses a load cell to determine seating pressure and then all ammo is sorted into lots based on seating pressure. Final seating is a separate station. It is all PLC controlled.

And he only uses virgin Peterson brass. We were shooting SPR with Remington 7.5 primers.

His powder is stabilized (his own post processing) and is treated with Tubb Dust too.

That is impressive right there . Virgin Peterson brass and 7 1/2s would be a joy to work with. I am not up to speed on the Tubb dust,will have to look into it more.

 

[urbanrifleman]

That is impressive right there . Virgin Peterson brass and 7 1/2s would be a joy to work with. I am not up to speed on the Tubb dust,will have to look into it more.

I tested it. You add it to your powder and it cuts the copper fouling down to almost nothing.

I mean the brass is a buck. The trick it to use his reamer. Then you can always just buy ammo from him and you know its going to shoot.

 

[dolek]

I will have to look into the dust,sounds like a winner . I just started using Peterson brass,have some loaded up but have not made it to the range yet.

 

[js2013]

His ammo was running 115 DTACS at 3200 FPS and SD of about 4.

3200 fps with 115 DTACS is pretty fast! Any idea what pressure he's running with the small primers and H4350.

 

[urbanrifleman]

3200 fps with 115 DTACS is pretty fast! Any idea what pressure he's running with the small primers and H4350.

He told me a number and he can tell you, I don't want to misquote him, but the primer looked pristine.

 

[Greg Brooks]

Always try something slower if you can’t get enough speed on the pressure curve. Personally I currently use 42.02gr of RL19 (about one notch slower than H4350 and RL17) and produce 3,230+ with the 6XC throated at close to magazine length in a 32” 5g Bartlein. Too much pressure without enough speed for this particular barrel with H4350 or H100v.

Can’t get anywhere near 3,150+ with my 243win but the XC case is pretty extraordinary - David did an awesome job with it and the DTAC. In the three barrels I’ve had in 6XC if H4350/RL17 is too hot it’ll shoot with either H100v or RL19. JMO

Good write-up my friend. Agree with Dusty, Tubb is top notch at the competitive games he’s chosen. Be interesting to see him shoot IBS, NBRSA, PPC/ISPC 3gun etc. be a curious expo


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