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Weight vs. Bearing surface

Ranger188

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What do you think is more important when trying to get more speed
from a bullet? How much does bearing surface matter?
Example, bullet A weighs = 166g and has a bearing surface of .522
and bullet B has a weight of 180, bearing surface of .471
I know it takes more energy to get 180g bullet moving at first than a 166g
but once moving, does the less bearing surface help with acceleration?
 
I dont know the answer to your question, but a bullet will only have some speed limit based on the gun, and the powder that you are using. Trying to exceed that will generally result in pressures being too high.

Pick the bullet size and type based on the use of that cartridge, ie hunting, target shooting, competition.

I suggest that once you have selected the weight and style of the bullet, accuracy should be the primary concern, a specific velocity is not important, except that it be consistent at your preferred load. Let the target tell you the best load.
 
There will definitely be an effect of a longer bearing surface in terms of kinetic friction. However, whether you can actually measure a noticeable difference in terms of velocity is another question entirely. I believe a bullet with a longer bearing surface will run slightly higher pressure than a bullet of equal weight loaded to the exact same specs. Unless the difference in bearing surface length is large between two bullets of comparable weight, any slight effect on velocity/pressure you might observe can usually be remedied (if necessary) by slightly adjusting charge weight. In my experience, there are other considerations that might crop up with respect to bearing surface length that are more important, which include:

1) a longer bearing surface = greater friction and greater potential for jacket failure with long barrels, high velocity/pressure, especially noticeable in long and heavy .224" bullets such as Berger's 90 VLD, Hornady's 88 ELDM bullets

2) a longer bearing surface means a greater BTO dimension, which means more bullet shank down in the case/neck, and therefore a reduction in usable case volume. That generally means higher pressure at a given charge weight, possibly even compressed loads if the bullet BTO dimension is too long for the specific freebore of the rifle. This can be remedied by increasing freebore length to seat a longer (heavier) bullet farther out in the case neck while maintaining the same distance relationship to the lands.

3) an extremely short bearing surface may lead to balloting, or wobbling in the rifle bore, resulting in fliers and generally poor precision. In certain cases, this may be associated with bullet designs that have are extremely long and have a high BC for a given weight class of bullets. In pushing the envelope to generate the highest possible BC, it is certainly possible to shorten the bearing surface too much. I have encountered a couple bullet designs that I believe suffered from this issue.

If the rifle has sufficient freebore to load a bullet of a given weight class and bearing surface length (i.e. BTO dimension), slight differences between similar designs from different manufacturers shouldn't cause enormous changes in pressure or velocity. Because you should usually be able to adjust a load slightly to accommodate such small differences, the real question becomes which bullet design provides the best accuracy/precision? Only direct testing can answer that question.

In terms of generating greater velocity, slight differences in bearing surface length are not likely to make a huge difference. In my hands, pushing a load to the limit to generate slightly more velocity has not been beneficial. Unless it is possible to increase velocity by at least 75 to 100 fps (or more), the difference in wind deflection or maximum range is usually so small as to not be worth talking about. Further, loads that are pushed to the very upper limits in order to gain a slight bit more velocity sometimes behave erratically. They may shoot well one day, and poorly the next, if you can even get them to shoot at all. A far better approach is to select a good high BC bullet design or two, have the rifle throated appropriately, and develop loads that do not show excessive pressure. Let the BC of the bullet do the work for you.
 
longer bearing surface will run higher pressures, I was running some 105 berg BT and loaded some horny 105M with same load and got hard bolt lift from the horn 105m. I seated both bullets same og, horny has a longer bearing sur.
 
Do some google research on Hammer Bullets. They have a bullet style they call a Hammer Hunter and another new style they call an Absolute Hammer. The basic differences in the two styles is the length of the surface being engraved. They are reporting some substantial differences in velocity.
 
Your example of a much heavier bullet will be the one that goes slower . IMHO you will not get the 180 up the the same velocities as the 166 . I believe bullet weight has much more to do with pressure then baring surface .

Meaning I'd be less worried about the longer baring surface when loading same weight bullets then if I was going up in bullet weight . One example would be Hornady's manual does not care what the baring surface is and list all powder charges with the bullets of same weight . I'm not even sure how much you need to worry about solid copper bullets and there longer baring surface . Those rings around the bullet are not crimp grooves but rather designed to reduce the baring surface of the bullet . I'd still use caution but would be less concerned then if those rings/cut outs were not there .
 
Touching on the post by Ned, throat the chamber for the bullet you wish to use.
I have three barrels each shoot a different projectile each have different freebore
 

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