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Weatherby Vanguard MeatEater Edition ODDITY

Brians356

Brians356

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This seems like a nice rifle. Looks good, comes with a 1 MOA guarantee and a two-stage match trigger. But shockingly it's not available standard in 30-06 (or even 270 Win)! However, at Weatherby you can order it in 30-06, 270 Win and others as a custom rifle (along with other options) for an additional $700. That's a total of $1700. Yikes.

At Sportsman's Warehouse, they're promoting it as a Weatherby/Sportsman's special with free shipping, and you can buy one in 270 Win at the street price of $900, but they don't offer it in 30-06. Hard to fathom, as 30-06 is still the top-selling big game chambering of all time.
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On the MeatEater podcast they touch in it a little bit and mention how the 3006 is janis’ fav but they aren’t offering it. I think they just picked stuff that’s selling hard right now.

Do you have a source that it’s the best selling chambering right now? I can believe ammo sales but I’m skeptical of new rifles.

they mention this rifle is what they wanted for a great new hunter recommendation, they get lots of “I’m a new hunter what rifle should I buy” emails and now they can say well the meateater one is built exactly for that.

I think it’s a nice looking rifle, it’s a little pricey for what it is but it looks cool, it’s a good accurate platform and I think it’s a solid choice for someone that wants to start hunting and needs to buy their first rifle.
 
brians356 said:
No, because I never said it's the best selling right now.
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Ah re reading I see my mistake, The “still” in your sentence confused me. I still thought it was possible!

I do think it’s a shame. Since they are marketing for a hunter that needs either a new “one hunting rifle” or a first one hunting rifle the 30-06 is a phenomenal do everything big game cartridge and ammo is everywhere
 
jmcmath said:
Ah re reading I see my mistake, The “still” in your sentence confused me. I still thought it was possible!

I do think it’s a shame. Since they are marketing for a hunter that needs either a new “one hunting rifle” or a first one hunting rifle the 30-06 is a phenomenal do everything big game cartridge and ammo is everywhere
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It'll take a while for the 6.5 Creedmoor to catch up with total 30-06 (or even 270 Win) sales through a century.
 
I am not sure it ( 6.5 Creedmoor number 1 in popularity) has, we read all of this info but is it really true. We have been reading for several years that the 6.5 Creedmoor is the most accurate cartridge ever invented and comes in the most accurate rifles you can buy over the counter. I don't believe it is the most popular in cartridge sales, I think it's a lie. I may well be the biggest brass whore that has ever lived. When I go to the range and pick up brass, I get 8-10 30-06 cases, 10 -12 308 cases, 2 or 3 30/30 cases and a few odd pistol cases. I get 3 - 4 6.5 Creedmoor cases. But I get over 100 223 cases. Now I know that some of the Creed shooters are saving their cases to reload even if they aren't doing it now. But this doesn't come close to the amount of 223 cases I find. I am sorry but we have to face it the gun writers are feeding us FAKE NEWS, just like they have for years.
 
I purchased a Vanguard Synthetic last year in 223 Rem for under $600 after examining one at my local gun shop. I believe it's a good value for a hunting rifle. I use it as a winter practice rifle to stay sharp for spring / summer varmint hunting.

It has a three position safety, a reliable extractor design, and while I'm not a fan of a two stage trigger this trigger is good, not great but good. After adjustment mine breaks at 2.8 lbs with no creep or over travel. I like the 7 1/2 lbs over all weight which aid in precise shooting. The stock is stiff and the fit in mine was excellent.

With tailored reloads I got mine to shoot 5 shot groups in the .5 to .6 moa range which isn't too bad for a factory sporter weight rifle.

While mine isn't quite up to the performance of my Tikka's, it's still is an effective hunting rifle with some nice features that the Tikka T3X sporter's don't have.
 
ebb said:
I am not sure it ( 6.5 Creedmoor number 1 in popularity) has, we read all of this info but is it really true. We have been reading for several years that the 6.5 Creedmoor is the most accurate cartridge ever invented and comes in the most accurate rifles you can buy over the counter. I don't believe it is the most popular in cartridge sales, I think it's a lie. I may well be the biggest brass whore that has ever lived. When I go to the range and pick up brass, I get 8-10 30-06 cases, 10 -12 308 cases, 2 or 3 30/30 cases and a few odd pistol cases. I get 3 - 4 6.5 Creedmoor cases. But I get over 100 223 cases. Now I know that some of the Creed shooters are saving their cases to reload even if they aren't doing it now. But this doesn't come close to the amount of 223 cases I find. I am sorry but we have to face it the gun writers are feeding us FAKE NEWS, just like they have for years.
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It's not a lie. Talk to your LGS and ask what is selling. One thing is for sure, you wlll never find my brass at the range. Lapua small primer brass is not throwaway. 30-06, people who own them are mostly hunters and probably don't shoot more than 5 rounds a year (unless they are competing in high power with an M1 Garand). If a box of 20 lasts 4 years, why bother to keep it and reload it.
 
Yea I've never thrown away a piece of Lapua brass in my life. 6.5 Creedmoor is growing and it may have out grown 30-06. But ive walked up and down the line at the range on many occasions and there is no way 6.5 Creed is being shoot more rounds over a year than 223. There are more ARs on the line here than all other rifles combined. You can believe it if you want but it ain't so.
 
ebb said:
Yea I've never thrown away a piece of Lapua brass in my life. 6.5 Creedmoor is growing and it may have out grown 30-06. But ive walked up and down the line at the range on many occasions and there is no way 6.5 Creed is being shoot more rounds over a year than 223. There are more ARs on the line here than all other rifles combined. You can believe it if you want but it ain't so.
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And those ar guys bring 3-400rds and shoot them all. Around here its at the 25yd target
 
Do they shoot it, or would the better wording be spayed it all around the 25 yrd target ? ;)
 
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Weatherby doesn’t care what ammo is used the most for their lineup only which cartridges rifles that sold in 2019 were chambered in, and then some of their own since they gotta rep the Venturi.

I don’t doubt more .223/5.56 ammo is sold than anything else, or shot than anything else. I bet more .223 chambered rifles are sold than anything else also as the AR market is absolutely killing it right now. But, for a big game rifle it’s not really appropriate for their market. I’m sure they will add 30-06 if they think it’s worth it monetarily but I doubt it is.

Especially with 308 and 300 win in the lineup for the good old boys

I do still wish you could get it
 
jmcmath said:
For the price I wish the bolt was DLC, I hate how cerakote bolts feel
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Why wpild you want a practical strong finish that doesnt chip? Ceracote is cheaper to do and customers will pay for for a shade of dusty flat dry brown poo speckled with bad ass sniper beard hair.
 
The sales of bolt action hunting rifles has been on the decline for years. The manufacturers who remain are fighting over a smaller slice of the pie. The problem is that bolt action rifles last a long long time. So one that is sold can ”Compete” with new rifles for 50-100 years if it is maintained. The problem is compounded when there is a cartridge (in this case 30-06) that has a wide range of bullet options and can perform well on much game that is hunted in the USA.

So, what is a manufacturer to do? A: improved manufacturing and fit to end up with rifles that are a bit more accurate hoping thereby to bump the used rifle competition for sales to the back of the rack, or B: Start segmenting the market by producing rifles in calibers that are nominally better suited for certain type of game, but unsuited for other game. Once in a while, one of these new designs actually takes off, as is the case with the 6.5 Creedmore. So, when that happens, there is a caliber that has a sweet spot for smaller/medium game, but which is less well suited for heavy game.

This new sweet spot creates an opportunity to then market a heavy caliber that is better for heavy game, but perhaps is compromising when used on say, coastal deer. Where previously there was one caliber that covered a broad range of appropriate game, there are now two rifles that cover the same range of game. Et voila, an opportunity to sell two rifles when one would previously covered the same range of game.

If you are thinking that I am advocating hunting brown bear with a 30-06 as someone may wish to point out, note for the record that I am not. This is a marketing move by Weatherby to try to entice customers over time to purchase two rifles.... One say in 6.5 and the other in one of the .300 magnums, rather than one rifle in 30-06
 
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