Weatherby Vanguard action & recoil lug bedding questions

[p5200]

Anyone have any photos that show where the bedding should be applied etc? This is the factory synthetic stock off a weatherguard model. Thanks!

 

[jackieschmidt]

The Vanguard is a flat bottom action with an integral recoil lug.

As you can see, there is not much area for bedding once you leave the forward part of the action.

The stock might have a pillar in the rear, much like the FN Brownings had to avoid compressing material.

Bed the front. You need to check the stock to see what type of structure is under the rear screw.

 

[p5200]

By bedding the front do you mean the lug recess? I've seen some folks say tape the bottom of the lug as well, as the sides and front. Some folks have said no to putting tape on the bottom of the lug? Thanks!

 

[akajun]

On mine I taped the front and sides and made an aluminum pillar for the bottom, seems to shoot well enough

 

[p5200]

Since action screw goes into bottom of recoil lug, would it be best to replace action screws with longer threaded rod? By screwing them in to action and then setting into the epoxy in the stock? I thought that might help in removing the action from the stock by tapping on the threaded rods. I'll have to wrap something around the stock until the epoxy sets up though Thanks!

 

[AlNyhus]

You don't want any more thread on the guide pins other than what goes into the action...the shank needs to be smooth. If not, the epoxy will wrap around the threads and you'll tear the bedding up when you pound on them thinking that will release the action. The Vanguards and Howas use a 6mmx1.0 pitch thread. Get a couple longe bolts with plenty of smooth shank length, cut the heads off and shorten the threads for your guide pins. Do a search here for 'flanged Delrin sleeves' for bedding...they will help a lot.

On actions where the screw goes into the bottom of the lug, I clearance the front and sides. The bottom and back are tight. On these actions, I bed the front flat to the mag cut, have no stock contact with the side rail bottoms and bed the bottom of the rear tang. I allow plenty of clearance around the entire action. Make sure you have clearance around the rear tang. Use a high quality bedding compound and you should get a nice job.

Just my way of doing them. -Al

 

[p5200]

Where could I possibly find guide pins with the thread on the ends? Thanks!

 

[AlNyhus]

Where could I possibly find guide pins with the thread on the ends? Thanks!

From my earlier reply:

"The Vanguards and Howas use a 6mmx1.0 pitch thread. Get a couple long bolts with plenty of smooth shank length, cut the heads off and shorten the threads for your guide pins."

You'll have all of $1 in two guide pins. Forster also sells them:

Forster Stock Inletting Guide Screws Sako, Howa, S&W 1500, Weatherby

These screws are used during the inletting process to guide the action into the stock from the top while keeping them both in perfect alignment. These...

www.midwayusa.com

 

[p5200]

Thanks!

 

[p5200]

Before I order, is this plenty to action bed my Vanguard? Thanks! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1863840924...kp:Bk9SR-jG-5brYw&LH_BIN=1&LH_ItemCondition=3

 

[LVLAaron]

Yes, unless you have some giant gaps to fill

 

[p5200]

If all goes ok, I may try my Tikka t3x Lite. I've heard they are a little tricky though with their recoil lug setup. Thanks!

 

[LVLAaron]

If all goes ok, I may try my Tikka t3x Lite. I've heard they are a little tricky though with their recoil lug setup. Thanks!

It's not hard... but the easy things are the easiest to screw up sometimes.

 

[p5200]

I've got the Marine-Tex and the inletting guide rods ordered. This will be the first for me. Hopefully, I don't have to use my Sawzall to get my stock off the barreled action LOL! I guess I'll get some KIWI Wax if I can find some.

 

[p5200]

I have some Renaissance wax would that work ok for a release agent? The stock has a metal ferrule both front and rear action screw holes. There is a small step down in the flat area right behind the rear of the lug hole where the flat part of action sets on. The lug and the flat step-down area are about the only areas I see that I could bed. I may be missing something but, I'll look some more. The rear tang with the metal ferrule
/Pilar I assume can't be bedded. Someone please correct me if I'm missing something. Thanks!