Wasn't the 6.5 Hornady A-Max bullet discontinued?

[VaniB]

I was surprised to see places listing the 123 & 140 6.5cal Amax for sale while the Hornady Website doesn't show it. But the places showing it are also out of stock. So I can't tell if it's discontinued item listings that the sellers never removed, or these sellers actually sell it but are just temporarily sold out in the panic.

My two rifles delivered 5-shot 1/4" - 1/2" MOA groups using 6.5 and .224 Amax bullets & then Hornady discontinued it for the ELD/VLD. The .224Amax are not shown available anywhere, but the 123 & 140 is. Yes, I know Hornady claims the Amax had stability problems, but pet loads worked exc for me.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

You think its a misprint and should be atip? Whats the price?

 

[Kurz]

Many of the suppliers I search have discontinued AMAX items still listed on their websites but shown as 'out of stock'. In all cases these items, 6.5 Amax bullets, have truly been discontinued and will not be available anytime. This is essentially the purveyor using the AMAX as bait to get us to use their website..., often called 'click bait' because of the rewards for the website but no product availability. Websites specializing in celebrity news often show scantily clad females to attract more clicks for their site. Click bait.

 

[Metal God]

I thought they still make A-Max for specific cartridges at lighter weights . I thought you can still get 168gr Amax but not the 178gr Amax . Fire remember correctly which as I write this I know I don’t but it has something to do with the plastic tips and the older ones that were on the Amax don’t handle certain velocities or heat or something something something I don’t remember exactly what . That’s why they went with the ELD’s for the high BC high velocity bullets they change the plastic tip material so it doesn’t warp or flex or melt again I don’t remember but it has something to do with the tips and maybe they’ve just completely abandon the Amax for the ELD I’m not sure

 

[Hohn]

Amax has been retired in favor of ELD if you believe the latest Hornady manual showing them all as discontinued.

 

[Kurz]

From the Hornady website:







https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/hornady-a-max-bullets

https://www.natchezss.com/hornady-a-max-rifle-bullets-30-cal-308-168-gr-a-max-100-ct.html

https://www.brownells.com/reloading/bullets/rifle-bullets/a-max-bullets-prod34134.aspx

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/hornady-a-max-30-168-grain-rifle-bullets

 

[El Matador]

The ELD Match and the AMAX are the same bullet. They started using a different type of plastic for the tip and changed the name. Apparently the older material was melting in flight and altering the BC at around 400 yards and beyond. I believe there are some new ELD Match bullets but most are just the same old AMAX with the new tip.

 

[Willie]

When the scuttlebutt came out about melting tips, big lots of the 6.5 amax came up for sale cheap. Being as I had never had any problem with them and the eld-x had lots of variance, I bought lots of 140 gr .264 and .284 162 gr amaxes at huge discounts. One of my few good decisions.

 

[Hoot]

The 6.5 123 Amax bullets shot lights out in my ten year old, 24" Grendel, with several different powders. I was bummed when they were discontinued. Then I bought a bulk box of 100) 123 no name bullets from from Midway and it turned out that they are the ELD's. They shoot just as well. Never looked back...


Hoot

 

[VaniB]

The 6.5 123 Amax bullets shot lights out in my ten year old, 24" Grendel, with several different powders. I was bummed when they were discontinued. Then I bought a bulk box of 100) 123 no name bullets from from Midway and it turned out that they are the ELD's. They shoot just as well. Never looked back...


Hoot

I've been concerned about the 75Amax having been discontinued too. I can only hope the .224 ELD really is nothing more then a tip replacement & will shoot exactly the same. don't have photos to show, but 5 shot groups were TIGHT!
As you can see in my photos, I've had pretty good luck with both 123 and the 140Amax in my 6.5CM Rem700 w/Brux barrel.

 

[Kurz]

The ELD Match and the AMAX are the same bullet. They started using a different type of plastic for the tip and changed the name.

Really? Then what accounts for the 0.051" difference in bullet length?

From JBM Bullet length list:

0.224 75.0 A-Max® (Litz) 1.070" (length of bullet including tip)
0.224 75.0 ELD M (Extremely Low Drag Match) 1.121" (length of bullet including tip)

You're trying to explain that even though there is a 0.051" difference in length that these bullets are still just the same and perform the same?

There are hundreds of posts which ask and answer questions regarding accuracy of measuring down to the 0.001" of an inch when reloading and the effect small variations make.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

There can be that much variance in one box- hard to imagine what a couple years would do

 

[Bc'z]

^^^^^^^sine wave^^^^^^^ Cool!

 

[Tommie]

^^^^^^^since wave^^^^^^^ Cool!

Dude, your spell checker is working overtime.

 

[SPQR70AD]

From the Hornady website:

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https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/hornady-a-max-bullets

https://www.natchezss.com/hornady-a-max-rifle-bullets-30-cal-308-168-gr-a-max-100-ct.html

https://www.brownells.com/reloading/bullets/rifle-bullets/a-max-bullets-prod34134.aspx

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/hornady-a-max-30-168-grain-rifle-bullets

if the rest of consumer goods followed the insane greed made inflation of reloading supplies a hamburger would be $85

 

[El Matador]

You're trying to explain that even though there is a 0.051" difference in length that these bullets are still just the same and perform the same?

There are hundreds of posts which ask and answer questions regarding accuracy of measuring down to the 0.001" of an inch when reloading and the effect small variations make.

No, I was not trying to explain the difference in those two measurements. What led you to believe that? I clearly articulated my point in the previous post so if there's any confusion about it you can go back and read it again.

 

[divingin]

if the rest of consumer goods followed the insane greed made inflation of reloading supplies a hamburger would be $85

https://www.insider.com/most-expensive-burger-in-the-world-costs-staggering-5000-2019-8

 

[Dusty Stevens]

If i had a website and was selling items and they became discontinued, id leave them on there, show them out of stock, and lower the price so that an internet search would bring you to my site and youd hopefully buy something else. Maybe i shouldnt be giving away marketing techniques for the online commerce industry

 

[SPQR70AD]

https://www.insider.com/most-expensive-burger-in-the-world-costs-staggering-5000-2019-8

that is amazing but I meant a fast food hamburger