Vmax bullet question

[copperking81]

Is the Vmax considered a VLD bullet? I didn't think it was but I ask because I'm starting to see a "ring" impression when seating the bullet in my standard bullet seating die. I've read that using a standard seating stem (and not a VLD seating stem) can cause this.

I've probably seated around 700 bullets with this die and I'm pretty sure it wasn't happening before until here recently. I suppose I might have missed it though.

 

[Pres100]

I don't think the profile quite qualifies as VLD, but the polymer tip will reduce some drag

 

[bobinpa]

If you are referring to a ring ( or indent) around the bullet caused by the seating stem, it is more likely that your neck tension is tight and requiring you to use more force to seat the bullet. If you haven't changed anything but this "ring" started to appear, you may have to anneal.

 

[copperking81]

If you are referring to a ring ( or indent) around the bullet caused by the seating stem, it is more likely that your neck tension is tight and requiring you to use more force to seat the bullet. If you haven't changed anything but this "ring" started to appear, you may have to anneal.

Thanks and yes, that's what I was referring too. I don't have an annealer so may just have to tinker around to find another solution. But thought it might just be the profile of the bullet.

 

[swd]

Neck tension

 

[jepp2]

I don't have an annealer

You could have one.

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[MGYSGT]

I use a propane torch and an battery operated screwdriver. About 4 or 5 seconds in the torch at the neck/shoulder junction and done. Or you could just shoot them as is. I tested some bullets once that had the little telltale ring from the seater, against some without. No difference out to 300 yards.

 

[Webster]

Is the Vmax considered a VLD bullet? I didn't think it was but I ask because I'm starting to see a "ring" impression when seating the bullet in my standard bullet seating die. I've read that using a standard seating stem (and not a VLD seating stem) can cause this.

I've probably seated around 700 bullets with this die and I'm pretty sure it wasn't happening before until here recently. I suppose I might have missed it though.

I shoot a lot of 58 GR VMax in my 6BR varmint rifle. I use very little seating force and I got a distinct ring on the bullet nose. Using a Wilson straight line seater. It didn't seem to affect groups. The rifle shoots groups about .350". The seater cone has a sharp edge. My guess is that it is shaped assuming the bullet will contact the seater inside the cone and the edge wouldn't touch the bullet. I bought some valve grinding compound at Auto Zone, put a bullet in a cordless drill with valve grinding compound on it. Spun it in the seater for about 15-20 seconds. Greatly reduced the ring depression. Didn't want to grind more 20 seconds to play it safe. Not sure but I think they may make different shaped seater rods. Call the maker of your seater die and ask if they make seaters with different shapes. I don't see it as a problem with my rifle. If your shooting comp it may be more of a concern.

 

[copperking81]

I shoot a lot of 58 GR VMax in my 6BR varmint rifle. I use very little seating force and I got a distinct ring on the bullet nose. Using a Wilson straight line seater. It didn't seem to affect groups. The rifle shoots groups about .350". The seater cone has a sharp edge. My guess is that it is shaped assuming the bullet will contact the seater inside the cone and the edge wouldn't touch the bullet. I bought some valve grinding compound at Auto Zone, put a bullet in a cordless drill with valve grinding compound on it. Spun it in the seater for about 15-20 seconds. Greatly reduced the ring depression. Didn't want to grind more 20 seconds to play it safe. Not sure but I think they may make different shaped seater rods. Call the maker of your seater die and ask if they make seaters with different shapes. I don't see it as a problem with my rifle. If your shooting comp it may be more of a concern.

I think that's what's happening with mine as well. I'm seating these bullets with less than .002 neck tension and even when I use relatively new brass, I seem to be getting it. I just can't figure out why it just now started happening but who knows...may have been there all along and I just didn't notice it.

I bought a better quality chamfer that's also designed for VLD bullets. Since using that, the ring is less pronounced but I can still see it.

 

[th82457]

On some of my guns where I use a specific bullet Forster will custom grind your seater stem to match the bullet profile - but it needs to be there seater stem. They charge for this , but a nominal fee and usually quick turn around. Just need to send them the stem and a couple of the bullets you load.

 

[marchboom]

Is the Vmax considered a VLD bullet? I didn't think it was but I ask because I'm starting to see a "ring" impression when seating the bullet in my standard bullet seating die. I've read that using a standard seating stem (and not a VLD seating stem) can cause this.

I've probably seated around 700 bullets with this die and I'm pretty sure it wasn't happening before until here recently. I suppose I might have missed it though.

I had the same exact problem when using Redding dies. Called Redding and they sent me a VDL seating stem. Works great...no ring.