Unertl "forty-five"

[itchyTF]

Anybody have an idea of the worth of the Unertl "forty-five" spotting scope? The picture is what it looks like, but is not mine. I saw an Ebay listing back in 2009 where one sold for $1,010.

Inputs appreciated.

 

[jonbearman]

If the one on the internet sold for 1000.00 or so,try it at 1200.00 obo.

 

[FroggyOne2]

Some one wanted that one really bad! I would say between 6-800 at best. There are times prices for something get really out of hand on evilbay. And I would say that the value really is closer to 600 bucks.

 

[woolenmammoth]

Its a real shame that the ebay price has become the barometer for the cash price. By the time the seller pays ebay and paypal fees you could be over %12 in fees depending how it was listed but nobody ever pays attention to the price that the seller NETS, just the closing price of the auction. Yet, that is the price. Many times, with the exposure that ebay yields it can be argued that that %12 is worth paying and thats beyond the scope of my point. Few people look at the closing price of an ebay item and then subtract %12, thats all...

 

[spclark]

Unertl stuff has 'collector' appeal, inflates the value over what folks'll (most folks) pay for stuff they expect to get some practical use out of.

Add the eBay 'effect' & what wouldn't go for, say $800 if offered here, might claim $1,200 from some well-off bidder.

What something's worth is what somebody will pay, not what the seller thinks it ought to bring him....

 

[Taildrag15X]

Its a real shame that the ebay price has become the barometer for the cash price. By the time the seller pays ebay and paypal fees you could be over %12 in fees depending how it was listed but nobody ever pays attention to the price that the seller NETS, just the closing price of the auction. Yet, that is the price. Many times, with the exposure that ebay yields it can be argued that that %12 is worth paying and thats beyond the scope of my point. Few people look at the closing price of an ebay item and then subtract %12, thats all...

This is true with all Auctions, either ebay or Rock Island and every ma & pa Auction House inbetween. I think that the general public is more connected now that asking prices and hammer prices are just a click away and don't think about the 10-20% Buyers Premieums, State Sales Tax and 35% Fees that auction houses charge above the gavel price which as you state they do not subtract and only see the "big" price.

 

[RoyinNC]

An item is worth whatever buyers are willing to pay. I don't see how what the seller NETS is relevant in any way. How the seller chooses to sell his item( and the associated fees ) is his own decision.

FWIW

 

[NateHaler]

An item is worth whatever buyers are willing to pay. I don't see how what the seller NETS is relevant in any way.

Right you are. Does anybody think how much the gas station nets per gallon, and how much tax is built into the price? No. You shop for the best deal. Ditto everything we buy, whether at auction, the store, a garage sale, or the classified section of this forum.

The buyer looks out for himself, and the seller looks out for himself. It's called the free market.

As to the value of the Unertl, OP, Google for it. If you want to sell it, you'll only know what it's worth by trying to sell it.

 

[itchyTF]

As to the value of the Unertl, OP, Google for it. If you want to sell it, you'll only know what it's worth by trying to sell it.

Nate,

I did try to Google it, not many hits. There was a 2009 Gun Digest that had it listed in the back for $810. I was just trying to get a starting point in case I wanted to sell it.

 

[243Mendoza]

I see very,very few Unertls on the firing line and the ones that I do see are very old

 

[woolenmammoth]

An item is worth whatever buyers are willing to pay. I don't see how what the seller NETS is relevant in any way.

What the seller nets via a third party sale is relevant for exactly this reason, and if more people were savvy to this, we'd all be doing each other a favor:

Seller has item, doesnt know the value, posts on here, looks at closing prices on ebay. Sees on ebay that 10 such items all close at X. So now seller turns around and says, I need X, these all closed on ebay for X, so thats the price. And high five to that guy all day long if he can get X.

The savvy purchaser however should be responding with, oh it closed at X on ebay, go sell it for that on ebay, or I'll give you X-%12 right now, which is what you'll net at X on ebay.

Granted, this doesnt effect much of our business here as you cant sell firearms on ebay, but for the average thing you'll purchase on ebay, there you go. So in the end, ebay drives the price up on everything and in the process it screws the buyer AND the seller.

Drawing a parallel to what a gas station nets is somewhat not understanding the issue as you are forced more or less to purchase gas from a gas station, its not like there is a good option to get gas without them. There is however plenty of good option to purchase goods without ebay and many times those goods outside of ebay are priced based upon a barometer that ebay sets, yet very few buyers and worse, sellers take that %12 percent into mind.

Anyway, this is wildly off topic and apologize for derailing discussion, just thought it important to clarify that. In the end absolutely, something is only worth what someone else will pay.

 

[RoyinNC]

You are still missing the point. eBay, as much as some folks like to vilify it, neither increases what people are willing to pay for an item nor decreases what sellers are willing to sell for. eBay only provides a huge market of buyers for items.

Perhaps I see your point that sellers should be happy to sell here in the free classifieds for what they would net from an eBay sale. Usually 6-8% in eBay and PayPal fees.

 

[FroggyOne2]

Pay Pal is the reason that I wouldn't fool with Evilbay.