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Tuner story...

Unfortunate. Just checked five 28" and 30" light gun barrels and won't fit without losing too much length.
 
IMG_3744.JPG Very nice tuners, obviously no tuner in the photo but here is an example of the thread pattern.
 
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I never have seen a tuner that didn't work . Their used on air rifles Definitely with RF Cf Both bench and long range . muzzle loader competition
AR 10 and 15 is where they shine . Show me one thing you screw on your gun and get 50% change in size of the group . Larry
Yes sir! As you say, they work on air rifles, rimfire and centerfire. I've never tried one on a muzzle loader but a cantilevered beam, is a cantilevered beam. We call those barrels. Lol!
I have seen some poorly designed tuners that caused problems, though.
 
In my experience, tuners work. The shooter will need to follow the directions that come with the tuner closely and do PLENTY of testing with the tuner. Every one of my barrels get threaded for a tuner.
 
Mike
You I feel you know more about tunner the most others I have talked to .
We spent 6 years testing and designing ours
If you can't adjust it with confidence at the range it is worthless .
I know you can find multiple tunes with less then a turn . If you can't it isn't not working .
I can show the results on paper . I know what it does but I can't explain how or why it does it. Not only does it help with bullet stability You can find a tune above and below the point of aim And right and left
Those tunes can be less then .020 movement on the ring .
Keep up the good work . This is your post and I won't hy jack it Larry
 
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Interesting thread mike. Would it make sense to put one on a sporter barrel hunting rifle?
There have been a few times where i have had a rifle that liked a low node better than a high node, in this situation could you load for the high node then use the tuner to improve it? And i am looking to improve a hunting rifle, not a competetive rifle.
 
Interesting thread mike. Would it make sense to put one on a sporter barrel hunting rifle?
There have been a few times where i have had a rifle that liked a low node better than a high node, in this situation could you load for the high node then use the tuner to improve it? And i am looking to improve a hunting rifle, not a competetive rifle.

A tuner on a small diameter hunting rifle is not a new concept. Remember the Browning Boss System? It was an adjustable weight at the muzzle.
Ben
 
A tuner on a small diameter hunting rifle is not a new concept. Remember the Browning Boss System? It was an adjustable weight at the muzzle.
Ben

I remember that, i just never got a chance to tune or shoot one.
My grandfather has an abolt in 22-250 with the boss on it, new never fired still in the box. He offered the rifle to my dad for a price thats hard to pass on, he is kicking around buying it now that grandpa is thinning out his gun safe.
 
Can a bloop tube be attached to your tuner? And will it come off easily for cleaning & reattach without losing zero on the front sight for smallbore?
 
I was using a tuner on a 6 XC, groups are small. Then got radical with the tuner turning it in with many RPM's, there are no graduations on the barrel to tell the number of turns.

As a novice on tuners, I will never use another one that does not have an indication of how far in or out a tuner has been turned, when you get lost...you are lost....never again.
I'm no expert by any means. But I have learned this all it takes are minute moves of the tuner to have noticeable effects
There are multiple nodes in each full revolution. You can be in and out of tune with just very small changes. Don't worry to much about how far it is in and out. Just make some type of witness mark where you start then make small adjustments
 
Tim, I screwed up, had the rifle shooting fantastic in 4 different places in one revolution. Then I screwed the tuner in too far, lost count of the revolutions, did not measure from the end to the ring, either. My first attempt using a tuner was nothing short of fantastic, but will keep careful notes next time. Playing with 4 different rifles at one time was just too much fun.
 
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Tim, on this tunner and barrel, way out toward the end of the threads is far better than the tunner screwed in. Screwed in, there are no small group nodes like when the tuner is screwed out. I want to see graduations like you may see on a Browning Boss or a micrometer barrel, Then you can make accurate records.
I'm not sure you can say that with much certainty, without reference marks. You have to KNOW how far you're moving it or you're guessing and relying strictly upon luck.

As I have said many times, with my tuner on a typical BR contour CF rifle, it is to be EXPECTED that there will be only .004" of tuner travel between completely in tune and God awful out of tune. There are a few guns that may be .005-.006.
We're way beyond THEORY here. My advice has proven to be true on literally hundreds of rifles. It's not coincidence.

A suggestion would be to(buy my tuner;)) use a depth mic to measure tuner travel, if you have no index marks on your barrel/tuner.

Even with marks..the single most common mistake..by FAR, is making too big of adjustments.
 

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