Tubbs Final Finish

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What has been the experiences of using this process on factory barrels to smooth up the bores. DG

 

[1newmexkid]

Tried it and didn't notice any difference

 

[coues52]

I tried them on 2 different 308 factory barrels.. easier cleaning/ less copper and tighten up the groups..not 1/2 moa groups all day long after, ..but they helped on both..Danny

 

[Dan Hall]

I used this process on a Remington 700 .223 and it made a significant improvement in accuracy. I've seen it used on others that didn't make a big improvement. I think it effects different barrels differently. Definitely not good for a smooth custom barrel.

 

[Stumpy1]

I had a Savage 12 Palma that had a bore that was rougher than a cob that would copper up quickly and didn't shoot well at all. I used the Final Finish (reduced amounts of each grit, especially the coarse ones) and re-crowned and got several seasons of use out of that barrel. I was well satisfied with what the product did, and happy with scores (high 180's to mid 190's at 600 and 1000) when I was having good days on the rifle. If I had a rough or fouling factory barrel I wouldn't hesitate to use it again.

Hope this helps,

Frank

 

[Rockymountainway6.5]

I used it on a Savage 111 in 6.5×284 that had one of the roughest bores I've ever owned. I could get about .25"@ 100 yds. for about 10 rounds then the accuracy would go south fast, you could feel the roughness in the bore. Copper fouling so bad it would take 24 or more hours to clean with patch out. After Final finish the accuracy stayed about the same but cleaning changed like night and day. Now cleaning takes minutes not hours. I haven't scoped the bore but it feels smoother,alot. It's only got about 300 rounds through it so hopefully I haven't scrubbed off to much life. The way it was fouling I was ready to try anything.

 

[Toolbreaker]

I used one of the Final Finish kits a few years ago on a factory barrel. It did smooth out the barrel and make cleaning easier, but the abrasive also pushed the throat forward considerably. Something to keep in mind before using one of these kits.

 

[wolley]

Used it on one of Savage's less than stellar barrels and all it did was push the throat out .040" The barrel still shot like crap and still collected incredible amounts of copper. Just a wallet lightener in my opinion.

 

[expiper]

I would put a lil' valve grinding compound on a bullet and do it,,,,Roger

 

[Larryh128]

What has been the experiences of using this process on factory barrels to smooth up the bores. DG

Used it once and did what is was supposed to do, smooth the bore and also cut the group size. A un-lapped barrel that shot good but much better after the Tubb process. I couldn't afford a lapped barrel at the time so it was the best option that I had.

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

So what we learn from this is that savage produces rough barrels....

 

[nmkid]

So what we learn from this is that savage produces rough barrels....

I agree with you on that. But, why are the majority still good shooter's?

 

[biggun2869]

I agree w/Roger, I've done it and it works. I did buy a kit that wasn't all that expensive from Midway---Wheeler brand, different grits and will probably last 5 lifetimes. The valve grinding compound is kind of harsh. Roll your bullets on lead plates to embed the abrasive.

 

[mchees1]

I used it on a Savage .308 FCP 10 and it helped a lot with accuracy improvement and cleaning. BUT, it chased the lands about .060" down the barrel!!

 

[Bigguy1951]

I used them in a Weatherby Mk V 300 wby. Barrel badly fouled in 3 shots. It also had 2 constrictions that you could feel when pushing a patch through. The kit made a huge difference. Fouling, although not eliminated, was dramatically reduced. Cleaning time was shortened considerably. One of the constrictions was no longer detectable, but the other one was slightly detectable if you knew where it was. Best of all was an increase in accuracy that was not expected. The gun went from a 3 inch group at 100 to a 1.5 inch group at 100. I would certainly use one again if I had a questionable barrel.

 

[ratbuster]

So what we learn from this is that savage produces rough barrels....

I have viewed the bores on a fair number of Savage bolt action rifle barrels. Their low end rifle bores are quite rough but the target models I have looked at have bores that look like premium custom barrels.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I would put a lil' valve grinding compound on a bullet and do it,,,,Roger

I was wondering also. Maybe put some aluminum- oxide on a patch wrapped bronze brush and stroke the heck out of it.

 

[Rust]

For a factory rifle that had bad fouling and accuracy issues it could have a possible good result and it's a lot cheaper than a new barrel regardless of moving the leade further out.

It's not something I would ever use on a new match barrel. If a new barrel didn't work out it would go back to the smith or barrel maker. However.... for a hot competition chambering if fire cracking is starting to show up using a bore scope potentially the finer grits can be used to polish it back a bit and extend the life of the barrel. Of course YMMV and I did say potentially.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Its hard to fathom somebody firing lapping bullets down a barrel, but no matter what it is firearms related somebody will buy it from what ive seen.

 

[Prose]

There are some posts about the product on this forum from Mr Tubb answering questions. Do a search for user DTubb and search through those. I’ve used it to recover barrels that I thought were beyond serviceable.