5 lb SS pins, ~125 x .223 Rem OR 100 x .308 Win cases, hot tap water, several tablespoons of Dawn and about half a tablespoon of Lemishine (a little Lemishine goes a long way), then 30-45 min tumbling. There is no need to tumble cases for hours. In fact, the risk of damage around the case mouths is greater (peening) the longer you tumble. That is because even with 5 lb of SS pins in the drum, the cases bang into each other during the tumbling process.
After tumbling, pick out the cases, carefully shaking them case mouth down to remove any remaining pins, and rinse several times in hot water. I then briefly roll cases across a dry towel to remove excess water from the exterior so as to minimize spotting, and immediately dry them for 30-40 minutes in a food evaporator [case dryer]. Any minor specs of carbon/fouling that might remain at the bottom corner of the primer pockets can easily be removed with a uniforming tool.
Now, can you simplify the process and be satisfied with the results? For example, what if you tumbled for two hours with only water with a cup of Simple Green and nothing else? What if the results were good enough? If so, what if you reduced the time from two hours?Here are the first 75 cases I did in the Thumblers Tumbler. I used 5# of pins. Two tbsp. of Dawn and 2tbsp of lemon juice (all I had on hand) about an 1" of water over the brass. Two hrs later these are what came out. To me slightly less hassle than ultrasonic, roughly the same results + brass is "shiny".
These cases have not been sized. I removed the primers with a universal decapping die. The primer pockets are just as clean as the inside and outside. Very satisfied with the results.
The 2 hrs was a mistake today. I had customers in the shop and didn't get back to it for 2hrs. Tomorrow I'm going to try the same thing with no pins and only leave them in for an hour. See what happens. I have about 800 of these 06 cases that all look the same.Now, can you simplify the process and be satisfied with the results? For example, what if you tumbled for two hours with only water with a cup of Simple Green and nothing else? What if the results were good enough? If so, what if you reduced the time from two hours?
What do you like about the Extreme tumbler over the Thumler?I had a Thumler’s for 5 years. Nothing wrong with it, but I bought one of these…(on the left)
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It does the same great job as the Thumler‘s. You can’t go wrong with wet tumbling IMHO. I use 5 pounds of stainless steel pins, fill to about an inch below full. Add a couple of healthy squirts of Dawn and a 9mm case full of “Lemi Shine” (citric acid). An hour and a half to two hours, and basically you have new brass. Sometimes, you will get a pin or two stuck in a flash hole. Easily pushed through with a paper clip. And, I do rinse after the cases exit the tumlber. I use a drying tray to air dry, usually overnight.
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LMFAOI could not find one in Australia with enough capacity so bit the bullet and made my own
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ya i've experinced that too, tumbling for hours damages the brass. My model b still works, havne't changed or done anything to it since i bought it in 2010Under appreciated reply of the thread. There are comments in here about guys tumbling for hours at a time; you don't want to do that, because you *will* alter your neck tension. How much depends on a number of factors.
It's been years since this happened, but I've had a wet tumbler peen case mouths so bad they wouldn't fit on a neck turning arbor until I very aggressively chamfered several thousandths off the case mouths.
I'm super warry about the use of wet tumblers as a result.
If I decide to pull the trigger on an AMP press, it would actually be one of the very first things I test, because I guarantee that it'll show up.
Nothing really. It’s supposed to have more capacity capability because of the roller bearings used. I found the Thumler’s unit to have a better drum unit. The Extreme unit’s drum was not true and tended to wobble a bit while in motion. Also, the lid didn’t seal like the Thumler’s lid. So I had to use 2 gaskets to seal it. It seeped a lot with just one gasket. And btw, those screw threads on the lid are metric(?). Whose idea was that?What do you like about the Extreme tumbler over the Thumler?