Thoughts on a bolt action 30 carbine

[Shawnba67]

So im just thinking out loud here. I have a interarms mini mauser with a 2.27 mag box a 30 cal barrel that doesnt have enough tennon for 700 size thread and shoulder and already load for and shoot 30 carb.
This last one is most of why im not asking about 300blk.
So is this idea using mostly components that would be useless otherwise still silly or is this a viable little riffle for yotes and such in the timber

 

[GSPV]

What is the bolt face on the mini Mauser action? Looks like 30 Carbine is .360. 223 is .378, IIRC. PPC is 445, Standard is 473.

What is the twist rate of the barrel?

If you could find a bullet that would open up at 2,000-Ish fps, it might be fun.

Depending on the bolt face and twist rate, I’d more likely look at a 30 Major (6.5 Grendel necked up) or a 30 BR. I know that they’ll push a Speer 125 TNT fast enough to blow up a yote

 

[Shawnba67]

223 bolt face and a 2.27 magazine box.
I hava bunch of hornady half jacket bullets. Just a big glob of soft lead out front,if that wont open can try and holow point them.
I am not expecting to much out of it. Something different mainly.
I decided awhile back for yotes after dark 200yd is as far as I can be absolutely sure that it isnt the farmers dog.

 

[GSPV]

I’d try to verify that it’ll pull and eject the 30 carbine case before getting too far into it.

Other than that, it’d likely work.

Lots of coyote hunters like the 223 necked up to 6mm in an AR. It’d be a good backup solution for you.

 

[hoz53]

So im just thinking out loud here. I have a interarms mini mauser with a 2.27 mag box a 30 cal barrel that doesnt have enough tennon for 700 size thread and shoulder and already load for and shoot 30 carb.
This last one is most of why im not asking about 300blk.
So is this idea using mostly components that would be useless otherwise still silly or is this a viable little riffle for yotes and such in the timber

id like one of those in 7.62x39

 

[ebb]

6.5 grendel

 

[matthias]

Get a 527 american hornet receiver . Rim of .350 open it if you need to and you are off and running cz 30 carbine bolt gun

 

[matthias]

Sorry get the mini Mauser 22 hornet bolt for your interarms mini and you are golden.

 

[XTR]

Getting a set of dies to load for the 300BLK is about $35 from brownells for the AR die kit. For what the 300BLK is you are looking at a 200 yards or less brush gun, they should work great. Uses the 223 bolt face. Sounds to me like a better option for you. Shooting the 300BLK in a bolt gun is pretty simple, no bother about getting the action to cycle or having too much pressure for the gas system.

 

[people]

I think it would be cool if it would feed and extract. To me if you could get it to take M1carbine mags that would be a winner.

With that being said it might just be easier to go 300blk. I know it is not what you want to hear. You can use the bullets you already have in a 300blk with out any problems. Brass is easy to make or buy. There is tons of load data. A big plus it probably will feed and eject.

 

[Tommie]

As already mentioned, Hornet rifles are the traditional conversion to 30 Carbine. With your bolt face the 300 BLK or Whisper is your best choice.

 

[ebb]

When I first read this thread I was thinking "If you want a rifle get one that has enough power to really be a rifle." Then as I thought more on the subject, I have seen this type of rifle proposed before. On one of the forums I read a guy wanted to build the cheapest to load for center fire rifle he could design. He made some dies out of some stuff he got in a trade and was necking down 38 special to 22 caliber. His thoughts were 38 special was the cheapest brass you can buy and a light 22 caliber bullet was the cheapest bullet. When 22 LR was hard to find a few years back I studied on the same idea. 38 special brass is not the cheapest any more. I looked at the way to make a low power 22 LR centerfire (reloadable) substitute. Custom dies would blow the cost out of reach, so it had to be some thing that cheap dies were avalible for. After much looking I think 22 TCM is the way to go. I don't know if your 30 carbine is a stab at this type of project, but it looks good. The cost of bullets in 30 caliber and 30 carbine brass could add cost to the project. I find so much 223 discarded brass I think an economy chambering would have to be based on it. If you already have 30 carbine brass so much the better. If you necked down the 30 carbine to 22 then you would be back in cheap bullets, but have the die problem. The only problem I see with a small light weight 22TCM bolt action is forming the brass. The brass is available to buy but that gets away from the spirit of the project.

 

[people]

When I first read this thread I was thinking "If you want a rifle get one that has enough power to really be a rifle." Then as I thought more on the subject, I have seen this type of rifle proposed before. On one of the forums I read a guy wanted to build the cheapest to load for center fire rifle he could design. He made some dies out of some stuff he got in a trade and was necking down 38 special to 22 caliber. His thoughts were 38 special was the cheapest brass you can buy and a light 22 caliber bullet was the cheapest bullet. When 22 LR was hard to find a few years back I studied on the same idea. 38 special brass is not the cheapest any more. I looked at the way to make a low power 22 LR centerfire (reloadable) substitute. Custom dies would blow the cost out of reach, so it had to be some thing that cheap dies were avalible for. After much looking I think 22 TCM is the way to go. I don't know if your 30 carbine is a stab at this type of project, but it looks good. The cost of bullets in 30 caliber and 30 carbine brass could add cost to the project. I find so much 223 discarded brass I think an economy chambering would have to be based on it. If you already have 30 carbine brass so much the better. If you necked down the 30 carbine to 22 then you would be back in cheap bullets, but have the die problem. The only problem I see with a small light weight 22TCM bolt action is forming the brass. The brass is available to buy but that gets away from the spirit of the project.

That sounds like a cool project. What many of those who were looking for a cheap 22lr project did was just go to 9mm. It is the reason why there are so many 9mm AR15 type rifles and handguns. Back when 22lr was all but impossible to find 9mm could be had for just a few pennies more.