This Californian Wants to Thank The Gun Community

[Flouncer]

I bring this up EVERY Time. Hate me, ban me, swear at me. We all throw a ton of money at our passion. We need to throw some at the cure for the virus that has infected this country. We will drop $1,000 on an action or 2X that on a scope after very careful deliberation. Deliberate about doing something more.

https://www.saf.org/

Fight back with the legal system, the same one used to pervert our Constitution.

 

[bobinpa]

I bring this up EVERY Time. Hate me, ban me, swear at me. We all throw a ton of money at our passion. We need to throw some at the cure for the virus that has infected this country. We will drop $1,000 on an action or 2X that on a scope after very careful deliberation. Deliberate about doing something more.

https://www.saf.org/

Fight back with the legal system, the same one used to pervert our Constitution.

Good point. I have sent the NRA a lot of money and I belong to "Firearms owner against crime" but I think it is time to add the SAF to my list. I'll try and do that this week.

 

[rammac]

Actually it is as easy as moving - if you put your belief in your Second Amendment Right above anything else.

The truth is that most people wont make any sacrifices that directly effects their comfort until it's too late. I am completely empathetic with those that have aged family members to take care of or the people that have medical limitations that prevent them from moving but there is no excuse for those that put their financial situation above their 2A right. My wife and I have started our lives over at least four times now, we had to start new careers, new homes, etc. so I know how difficult it is to pack up and start over again but you can survive it, it may put you behind in regards to some long range career or financial plan but what do they matter if you are a slave to some globalist agenda. I have children in two different states and my wife and I live in a third and we feel the loss every day but we tell our kids that we wont move just to be close to them, we are all adults and we need to choose what standards we want to live by.

Unfortunately if you live in a progressive/globalist environment you will adjust to some degree to agreeing with the attitudes of the place, it's only natural for us to want to get along with our neighbors so we make compromises. I see it in my own children, their feelings about social issues have changed over the years and they've definitely moved toward a more liberal view than they had before, that's why, if people eventually do move, they tend to bring the problem with them. They still vote for people that propose the same solutions to social issues that caused the problems in their old state. Social standards become ingrained, it's a subtle form of brain washing, we have certain reactions programmed in to our subconscious and we just tend to repeat those reactions in our new home.

It's like being part of a dysfunctional, abusive family. You know it sucks, you know you want it to change, but it's easier to stick with the pain that you've grown accustomed to rather than taking a chance on some scary unknown in an effort to fix the problem.

 

[dolek]

Some crazy crap in this thread... another pissing match over where a person lives and the state government . Internet muscles at their finest,why not band together on these subjects ?

Divide and conquer ,ever heard of it ? Prime example right here in this thread .

 

[Daddymac]

Jeeeez. Why do we feel the need to pile-on whenever the word “California” is uttered?

It is, after all, the left coast. Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

That is great news in the war on stupidity, I hope it sticks. I can't help but chime in on the "just move" comments, on one hand I agree whole heartedly, the left coast seems like a lost cause at times. On the other hand I sure am glad our fore fathers did not feel that way, not only did they stay, they stood against the most powerful military force in the world at the time, they took the lead, we just need to follow.

 

[Phil3]

I am the OP. I did not intend, or want, a debate on the legitimacy of people's reasons for not moving out of CA. Suffice to say, each has their own reasons, including for some an unwillingness to severely hurt others dear to us, and us to them...and worse. Is there ANY limit to what any of us will personally sacrifice, or the personal harm we cause to others, to escape living in CA?

One thing that is apparent is that there is power in numbers, and those numbers include every one of you (except where I fail a litmus test on where I live). That power was spoken to in my original post. Even the CA Attorney General wrote the following.

"...California has restricted the acquisition of LCMs for nearly two decades, and until the Judgment is stayed pending appeal, individuals will be free to acquire new LCMs, and there is evidence that sales have begun already. If Section 32310 is ultimately reinstated by the Ninth Circuit, it will be difficult for the State to remove these new LCMs...".

Indeed, it will be difficult, given how many 11+ mags have come in due to suppliers across the country supporting CA gun owners. And the fact that suppliers counted on other owners in free states to accept delays so CA customers could benefit in the short window they had. As one here wrote, "no man left behind".

California's 4.2M gunowners, who own far more guns than any other state, helped "LCMs" become more "in common use", a key element of the Heller decision. This is good for everyone. None of this would have happened had not George W. Bush appointed Judge Benitez to the bench, a president who was barely elected, making clear the importance of voting...by everyone.

While my thanks here has resulted in some personal criticism, I still stand by my thanks to the gun community and the people on this forum.

Best, and happy shooting.

Phil

 

[pirate ammo]

(except where I fail a litmus test on where I live)

I did not see any failure, circumstances are different for all of us. Live long and prosper.

 

[mattt]

Rammac great post

 

[muleman69]

Some crazy crap in this thread... another pissing match over where a person lives and the state government . Internet muscles at their finest,why not band together on these subjects ?

Divide and conquer ,ever heard of it ? Prime example right here in this thread .

Very well said ,key words are BAND TOGETHER.