>>>>>>>The NEW --SNIPER -- Ground Hog Game<<<<<

[people]

Steel is the best target you can get for this type of practice. Do not skimp on the paint.

 

[Drop Port]

If he can get you at least Armor Steel 400-HB, or even better 500-HB you will be good to go. I got steel from a tester at a mill and it was 1/2" mild steel and my 300WSM punched through it at 500 yards like paper with barely any report. I can shoot my 500HB targets at 100 yards with a 308Win and all it does is knock the paint off.
Even my piece of 400-HB 1/4" is holding up fine as long as I don't shoot it up close.

 

[machineman98]

Let's do it !!!!! I am only 1.5 hrs away from Santee. Been to Santee State Park many times growing up.

 

[stinnett1981]

Sounds like a blast! I do the same thing, but with steel gongs unknown distances. Its a lot of fun to come up with shooting games/comps with friends. We also use clay birds at long range too. If I was close you could count me in! You guys have fun!

 

[fredo]

Dan, if you've got that laser cutter hookup, then use it!!!

I come across scrap steel at work from time to time, but my cutting skills with a torch leave something to be desired Got a couple coyote silhouettes with swinging vitals that I made up, plus all matter of size & shape swingers butchered from scrap that work well enough. I did buy a spring loaded "prairie dog popper" several years ago, can't remember where from, but it wasn't cheap? That is a fun little sucker to plink though, resets itself after every shot...
Anymore, I've sucked it up and bought some nice AR500 plates from JC Steel. And they sell cool hangers that work with any T-post, for easy setup. The only downfall of good AR 500 plates is the price tag. And I kinda like having chuck targets down on terra firma, over hanging them in the air. Just seems more natural to the task. Bowling pins are free, relatively lightweight, and self standing, so thats why I shared about giving them a shot...

Please keep posted on how you make out with the steel targets!
Have fun!

 

[daniel brothers]

This crazy thing has grabbed me by the short hairs, because now I'm even thinking about New Jargon... but what else is there to do when it's cold and rainy outside.

Example...

"You tell a Guy that your rifle is a...Woody One-5... which means that it will hit 6"x12" standing groundhog (Woody) targets from 100-400 yds, at random ranges without missing... in a 0-5 mph wind.

Woody One -10 is the same, but stronger winds... 6-10 mph..
Woody One -15.... 11-15 mph...
Woody One -20.... 16-20 mph.... and so on...

A Woody Two-5 means your rifle will do that same thing as the Woody One... BUT... also does it farther... 400-700 yds.

So a Woody Two -20 would mean that it has earned a Sticker or Certificate of Verification that it will randomly hit these targets out to 700 yds in a 20 mph wind... which is a REAL SHOOTER... and one to be Proud of.

Let's get crazier....

Then what is a Woody Three-5.. 10... 15... or 20...?

Same as the other ones about the wind...BUT...
the Woody Three means = 700-1000 yds... WOW

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Then when you have a contest, all the Woody Ones shoot against each other as a group, and the same with the Woody Two and Three Groups... that way it's fair to everyone. But... that rifle has to earn the Badge, Certificate or whatever to even qualify to shoot in the upper groups.

Everyone will start out as a Private, and must earn his Stripes as he preforms better and climbs the ladder in rank... or ... Woody Level.

To earn a rank, you must shoot some number of random targets... maybe 6-8... with Cold Bore Shots ONLY. One shot at each, if you miss a target, then you have to start all over.

So the overall purpose of this whole thing would be more about tuning your setup and yourself, while earning rank stripes.

If you wanted to earn a Hog's Tooth... which could be a sticker, badge, certificate, or even a singe-double-or triple tooth of some type... on a cord... or something worthy of a Hog's Tooth.... you would have to win a contest within your Woody Rank for hits and points... with 6 or more shooters.

So you would be trying to earn two things....

a Rank... which is all about you and your setup...

and a Hog's Tooth... a Win within your Rank.

What do ya think...?

If it's too crazy...just blame it on too much time sniffing IMR 4350....LOL.

 

[mattri]

A buddy and I have been talking a out a very similar idea, targets of various size at ukds engaged with a hunting/varminter style rifle. We also thought about making the time through the circuit part of the score. I think this has merit.

 

[1shot]

As an added insentive to what "catshooter" said. No "Spotting" shots, you were "on record" for the first shot. Just imagine that are your rules for engagement.
"Everything after the first shot is just practice".
Lloyd

 

[CatShooter]

As an added insentive to what "catshooter" said. No "Spotting" shots, you were "on record" for the first shot. Just imagine that are your rules for engagement.
"Everything after the first shot is just practice".
Lloyd

I never met a woodchuck that allowed you spotting shots - I have met a few that were dumb enough to let you get off a second shot.

 

[timeout]

I used to shoot with a group that held woodchuck matches, similar to what you are talking about - but they were brown, full sized woodchuck targets - head shots didn't count - only the rings on the tummy counted.

Bullet holes that touched a line gave the LOWER of the two counts. Opposite of normal scoring

All rifles were to have round bottomed stocks - no flatter than a Rangemaster or a Marksman, and shot from Harris or Parker Hale style bipods, "X" sticks, or off a back pack on the ground, with a squishable rear bean bag. No shooting tables, all shots were prone or sitting. Calibres were 243 bore or smaller. Maximum scope was 24X.

No flags, no "range crap"... no nothing that you wouldn't find in a field on a farm, (cuz the match was held in a field on a farm)

Three classes:

Factory (Rem VS's and Win HBV's, Sako L46's and L146's, etc. type rifles) - must be factory stock, trigger work or replacement was OK, (any trigger) and glass bedding was allowed. Must be the original factory calibre, no barrel setbacks, Ackleys, or rechambers. Max weight was 12.5 pounds, with scope and bipod. US commonly available factory cartridges only.

Semi-custom (40XBs, Coopers, Sako PPCs, etc) same rules as above. Must be factory stock, trigger change and glass bedding was allowed. Max weight was 15 pounds, with scope and bipod.

Full custom - field stocks, anything-any cartridge - max weight with bipod and scope was 15 pounds.

... no benchrest rifles, and no benchrest rifles with a round piece taped to the fore end - all gamers were stopped at registration. It had to be a REAL woodchuck rifle.

You could enter alone, or team (ranger/spotter), using hand held bins only... or as a single shooter.

No "Spotting" shots, you were "on record" for the first shot.

There were two shots per target. The second shot had to be fired within 10 seconds of the first, or it didn't count - if only one shot hit the target, it was worth 1/2 of the ring score.

The LOWEST shot counted (ouch!!)

The rules were designed to keep out the gamers.

Targets were numbered and positions were numbered - you drew tags for two numbers for position and targets - if you got 3 and a 12, you shot from position 3, and shot all targets numbered 12... yup, it was not fair.

Targets might be partially hidden cuz they were set up in a dip (peekie woodchucks) with only their head showing behind a rise... and often weeds in the way (made lasers hard to use)... but you still had to hit them in the tummy.

After the third match, a lot of Wild, Barr & Stroud, and Swedish Periscopes showed up, cuz people found out just how unreliable lasers are against woodchucks. The lasers were NOT reliable.

It was the most fun I have ever had at any match... no one got away being the group "Big shot" cuz next time he would get his clock cleaned by some kid.

There was a lot of teasing, and you brought your own lunch - it was an all day affair.

Not to beat a dead horse, rather revitalize this post. This sounds like a really enjoyable event. Is there anyone in the Midwest with the place to hold an event like this? I would be willing to help organize it. Has to beat paper at known distances, at least for those of us that are more the hunting type at heart

 

[daniel brothers]

It's not a dead horse to me....LOL I have to get something going.
It will be fun, as well as educational for everyone involved.

Here is a link to another type of range I'd build in a heart beat....

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3867596.new#new