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"The Gun Is Civilization"

An interesting read sent to me by a friend.


"The Gun Is Civilization!"
Interesting take and one you don't hear much. . . . . .

"The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.


In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.


When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.


People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.


People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.


When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

Bob
 
I wish I could send this to my Governor to read but it would thrown away because he feels we are all nut jobs.I once was in a situation where this old guy knocked on the door of my apartment.My friend opened the door and I said who is it.He said to turn around and look.I did and was horrified to see this old Jewish fellow standing there with an M1 Garand pointed at my torso.I asked him if he wanted our wallets thinking we were being robbed but it turned out he wanted peace and quiet.I was sanding with an electric sander because we were fixing the apartment to get free rent.Anyways I somehow convinced him there would be no more noise and I had my buddy close the door and I jumped off to the side.I said should we call the police and he said nah.I called anyways and they sent the swat team.They disarmed the guy and found the weapon only to realize it was loaded with the safety off.They put him in the psych ward and he came home the next day disarmed and the cop who relieved him of his weapons bought them all for 50.00.I had 2 more run ins with him and finally had to threaten this idiot with a hammer ,after that he merely said Hi to me and I would be cordial.It scarred the heck out of me and if I had had a gun I would not know how I would have handled the situation.I would hope it would have been viewed as self-defense.Now I carry almost everywhere after that incident.
 
damn jon...
you need to move to Maryland where you are safer because we don't have concealed carry ;) unless of course you jump through (shop owners/ domestic violence victims) or around them (law enforcement PD/GOVT). other than that no one is armed....hey who is knocking at my front door? NSA?
safety off
doc
going to library this afternoon to look for the book
 
It really happened and it haunts me till this day. It was completely unprovoked as we were working for the apartment management.
 
Guns are not a deterrent, nor an instrument of reasoning -while we will not use them.
We are raped daily by our American government because we have demonstrated over and over that we will not resort to use of our guns (beyond fits and crime).

At any time in the future we may be 'asked' to turn them in, and we will. Might as well...
The old days of grand thinking,, our constitution,, wasted and undeserved for us...
 
navyrad8r said:
damn jon...
you need to move to Maryland where you are safer because we don't have concealed carry ;) unless of course you jump through (shop owners/ domestic violence victims) or around them (law enforcement PD/GOVT). other than that no one is armed....hey who is knocking at my front door? NSA?
safety off
doc
going to library this afternoon to look for the book

We never had CC in Wisconsin either until we elected a Republican Attorney General and Governor. The other Dem. governor had, ( of course) two armed State troopers with him at all times. How's that for hypocrisy ?
 
Like Jane Fonda once said:" Guns aren't for you people ,they are for people like us."
 
mikecr said:
Guns are not a deterrent, nor an instrument of reasoning -while we will not use them.
We are raped daily by our American government because we have demonstrated over and over that we will not resort to use of our guns (beyond fits and crime).

At any time in the future we may be 'asked' to turn them in, and we will. Might as well...
The old days of grand thinking,, our constitution,, wasted and undeserved for us...

Speaking of "raped", if the government decided that the possession of a penis was too great a danger -- because it would be used for sexual assault -- would you turn yours in? How about your hands, which could be used for strangling? Or your teeth for biting? Or your SUV or Prius, either of which you could drive through a kindergarten playground at recess?

But I get your point. And for those of you who don't get the 2nd Amendment -- it's NOT about deer hunting; it's NOT about you getting the drop on your crazy neighbor with his M1 Garand. It's about the right and duty of the PEOPLE to resist and replace an oppressive, unjust government. Like we have now.

If you give up your guns rather than fight the government, then you'll be just like the Jews and other oppressed peoples leading up to WWII. If you trust the government, then you are a fool at best, and a socialist/moron/evil-doer at worst.

An armed society is a polite society. An armed society is a free society. Molon labe.
 
BOhio said:
mikecr said:
Guns are not a deterrent, nor an instrument of reasoning -while we will not use them.
We are raped daily by our American government because we have demonstrated over and over that we will not resort to use of our guns (beyond fits and crime).

At any time in the future we may be 'asked' to turn them in, and we will. Might as well...
The old days of grand thinking,, our constitution,, wasted and undeserved for us...

Speaking of "raped", if the government decided that the possession of a penis was too great a danger -- because it would be used for sexual assault -- would you turn yours in? How about your hands, which could be used for strangling? Or your teeth for biting? Or your SUV or Prius, either of which you could drive through a kindergarten playground at recess?

But I get your point. And for those of you who don't get the 2nd Amendment -- it's NOT about deer hunting; it's NOT about you getting the drop on your crazy neighbor with his M1 Garand. It's about the right and duty of the PEOPLE to resist and replace an oppressive, unjust government. Like we have now.

If you give up your guns rather than fight the government, then you'll be just like the Jews and other oppressed peoples leading up to WWII. If you trust the government, then you are a fool at best, and a socialist/moron/evil-doer at worst.

An armed society is a polite society. An armed society is a free society. Molon labe.

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BOhio said:
And for those of you who don't get the 2nd Amendment -- it's NOT about deer hunting; it's NOT about you getting the drop on your crazy neighbor with his M1 Garand. It's about the right and duty of the PEOPLE to resist and replace an oppressive, unjust government. Like we have now.
If you give up your guns rather than fight the government, then you'll be just like the Jews and other oppressed peoples leading up to WWII. If you trust the government, then you are a fool at best, and a socialist/moron/evil-doer at worst.
I couldn't agree more, and yet we have not used, and will not use our 2nd Amendment.
The only thing more powerful is the 1st amendment, and our gov't has the reins tight on this, as there is no free speech without privacy..

Bottom line, opportunities to do anything about our gov't have long past. The 2nd just didn't work.
 
mikecr said:
I couldn't agree more, and yet we have not used, and will not use our 2nd Amendment.
The only thing more powerful is the 1st amendment, and our gov't has the reins tight on this, as there is no free speech without privacy..

Bottom line, opportunities to do anything about our gov't have long past. The 2nd just didn't work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
 

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