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The Benchrest Shooting Primer

AlNyhus

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On Benchrest Cental, a recent thread that touched on Precision Shooting Magazine was a reminder of how good The Benchrest Shooting Primer is. Many newer accuracy shooters have likely never been exposed to it....it's a great collection of articles that are still relevant today.

T.J. Jackson's article on the 6BR cases for example...while written in the pre-Lapua time period... contains info on inside case necks that's very beneficial.

Now long out of publication, they surface on ebay periodically. Matter of fact, there's a couple on there now. ;)

Good shootin'. -Al
 
On Benchrest Cental, a recent thread that touched on Precision Shooting Magazine was a reminder of how good The Benchrest Shooting Primer is. Many newer accuracy shooters have likely never been exposed to it....it's a great collection of articles that are still relevant today.

T.J. Jackson's article on the 6BR cases for example...while written in the pre-Lapua time period... contains info on inside case necks that's very beneficial.

Now long out of publication, they surface on ebay periodically. Matter of fact, there's a couple on there now. ;)

Good shootin'. -Al
Have a copy of this and it is wonderful reading for both a newbie and veteran shooter.
 
On Benchrest Cental, a recent thread that touched on Precision Shooting Magazine was a reminder of how good The Benchrest Shooting Primer is. Many newer accuracy shooters have likely never been exposed to it....it's a great collection of articles that are still relevant today.

T.J. Jackson's article on the 6BR cases for example...while written in the pre-Lapua time period... contains info on inside case necks that's very beneficial.

Now long out of publication, they surface on ebay periodically. Matter of fact, there's a couple on there now. ;)

Good shootin'. -Al
It,s a shame they had to go. Good reading. Just my two cents Tommy Mc
 
Found a copy last year and gave it to myself for Christmas
Bookmarked at the 6br article.
Good read!
Don't know why it posted sideways, but can't seem to rotate it. Apologies.
 

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The real problem with PS Magazine was content. Typically, you got a on-your-discipline article 4-6 times per year. Then you had to get past the “filler” articles (very often some old guy’s ego stroking remembrances) that had had nothing of any substance. Awfully hard to keep buying it.
 
Soneone wouldn't come into the computer age could have been part of the problem.
Hey Dave......congrats on your win!
Toward the end, I could submit my stuff on floppy discs....remember those? Photos still needed to be actual prints, though. Not being able to submit text and photos digitally, even then, was a big handicap.
Good shootin' -Al
 
Would having this book relate to non-competitive reloaders with factory SAAMI rifles.

Meaning with fat factory chambers from 30-06 to .223 with sporter weight barrels.

The book at MidwayUSA originally sold for $16.00 and the cheapest copy now is $60.00.

Inquisitive cheap bastard needs to know.:confused:

P.S. Don't tell F. Guffey about this post, I'm arguing with him in another forum. I posted a quote from Jim Hull about "The cartridge should fit the chamber like a rat turd in a violin case" and now Guffey is giving me a bunch of crap about it. :rolleyes:

Kevin Thomas
Lapua USA

"There's two very common misconceptions that you've expressed here, and I'd like to address them both. One , that N/S extends the life of the brass. As I said, if done properly, F/L sizing gives you every bit as long of case life as N/S can, but without all the additional headaches that go hand in hand with neck sizing. You will have problems if you stick to neck sizing. It's not a question of if but of when. I tend to believe in Murphy in these things, and he'll usually find you when you can least afford a visit from him. And Two, that full length sizing somehow produces less accurate ammo than neck sizing. It doesn't, and is generally the other way around. Virtually all accuracy labs that I'm aware of use nothing but full length sizing for all their testing, and accuracy is what most reloader's dream of. I've fired literally hundreds of thousands of ten shot groups, with well over 95% of them staying far below the 1/2 MOA mark. In fact, when a rifle wouldn't consistently hold 1/2 MOA or under, I scrapped the barrel, as I could no longer use it for test purposes. All of that ammo was full length sized, NEVER neck sized, as it had to work in a variety of different guns. MY predecessor at Sierra, Jim Hull, used to say that a loaded round should fit in a chamber," like a rat turd in a violin case." Jim had a way with words, and creating visual images. But the idea is that it should fit freely, without binding or jamming when chambered. Forget the nonsense about N/S ammo giving better accuracy, because it's exactlyvariety that, nonsense. A few isolated examples of individual guns or groups don't change that, and it's the long run averages that count."variety



Germán A. Salazar
The Rifleman's Journal

"a full-length sized case in which the neck is also fully sized. There is clearance at the neck and in the body of the case, the closest fit anywhere is the bullet in the throat. If the neck to bullet concentricity is good (although it needn't be perfect), then the bullet will find good alignment in the throat and the case body and neck will have minimal influence. Let's not forget that the base of the case is supported by the bolt face or the extractor to a certain degree as well; this is yet another influence on alignment. As you can see, there are several points from base to bullet that can have an effect. My procedure is to minimize the influence of those that I can control, namely the case body and neck, and let the alignment be dictated by the fit of the bullet in the throat and to some extent by the bolt's support of the base. Barring a seriously out of square case head, I don't think the bolt can have a negative effect on alignment, only a slightly positive effect from minimizing "case droop" in the chamber. Given that a resized case will usually have a maximum of 0.001" diametrical clearance at the web, this isn't much of a factor anyway.

In conclusion, I believe that allowing the bullet to find a relatively stress-free alignment in the throat by full length sizing (including the neck) and turning necks to enhance concentricity gives the bullet the best probability of a well-aligned start into the rifling."
 
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Would having this book relate to non-competitive reloaders with factory SAAMI rifles.

Meaning with fat factory chambers from 30-06 to .223 with sporter weight barrels.

The book at MidwayUSA originally sold for $16.00 and the cheapest copy now is $60.00.

Inquisitive cheap bastard needs to know.:confused:

P.S. Don't tell F. Guffey about this post, I'm arguing with him in another forum. I posted a quote from Jim Hull about "The cartridge should fit the chamber like a rat turd in a violin case" and now Guffey is giving me a bunch of crap about it. :rolleyes:
I got one last week on amazon for $30
 
I bought a copy on a lark when I first joined this forum a few years ago. Made for entertaining light reading. Interesting to learn how things were done “before”. But a whole bunch of it seems to be obsolete by now.
 
The real problem with PS Magazine was content. Typically, you got a on-your-discipline article 4-6 times per year. Then you had to get past the “filler” articles (very often some old guy’s ego stroking remembrances) that had had nothing of any substance. Awfully hard to keep buying it.
Riflewoman, I guess I don't take this shooting stuff as seriously as you do.
I always enjoyed every issue of PS as much for the entertainment as the information. I enjoyed the articles about great rifle and pistol shooters, Bill Calfee goofing off along the Ohio river,and even Dick Wright driving his Porsche around Michigan.
I still subscribe to a lot of shooting related magazines but PS was always my favorite.
 
The BIG problem, for Dave Brennan was stuff to publish - actually, lack thereof. He had a comparative mountain of willy-nilly stuff - high-power, me&joe, etc. - and only a very few precision/bench-rest shooting related papers. In the middle of the time-frame Dave published some of my submissions, I proffered a tome (complete with photos) regarding how varmint shooting and the quest for precision led me to BR competition - the transcript was returned with a BIG RED, "REJECTED" . . . "you can & have done better":eek:! I still think that was my best submission . . . but Dave was THE Editor. :D The best attribute of PS was the [relative] lack of marketing hype, sharing of DATA/info, and the personality that came through the text. :) RG
 
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Hey Dave......congrats on your win!
Toward the end, I could submit my stuff on floppy discs....remember those? Photos still needed to be actual prints, though. Not being able to submit text and photos digitally, even then, was a big handicap.
Good shootin' -Al
Thank Al.

I was going by what a frequent contributer to PS back then told me. Most likely after he quit sending articles sometime the policy changed. He posts here from time to time.

Later
Dave
 
The real problem with PS Magazine was content. Typically, you got a on-your-discipline article 4-6 times per year. Then you had to get past the “filler” articles (very often some old guy’s ego stroking remembrances) that had had nothing of any substance. Awfully hard to keep buying it.
The "fluff" in all shooting mags make me skim big time. When I start doing that the end is near.
It's not in book style either. I love a good story that takes me to that place in my mind. Literary ramblings of words irritates me.
 
Once you get a copy NEVER loan it out! I have two copies that are MIA :mad: What I get for being a nice guy I guess.
 
Found a copy on the shelf. I hadnt looked at it in years. Pulled it down and when i opened it the binding started to fail. Soon it will be nothing but a loose leaf notebook.
 
The BIG problem, for Dave Brennan was stuff to publish - actually, lack thereof. He had a comparative mountain of willy-nilly stuff - high-power, me&joe, etc. - and only a very few precision/bench-rest shooting related papers. In the middle of the time-frame Dave published some of my submissions, I proffered a tome (complete with photos) regarding how varmint shooting and the quest for precision led me to BR competition - the transcript was returned with a BIG RED, "REJECTED" . . . "you can & have done better":eek:! I still think taht was my best submission . . . but Dave was THE Editor. :D The best attribute of PS was the [relative] lack of marketing hype, sharing of DATA/info, and the personality that came through the text. :) RG
I probably would have learned more reading your “rejected” article than anything Rychetnik wrote.
 

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