or, if you prefer, tell me why i shouldn't spend any money on a savage pre-fit in that caliber. i should add, i am notoriously cheap, and have mounds of lc .223 brass looking for a second life.
tell me all the good things about a 6mm - 45
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Dusty Stevens
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No downside at all to a 6x45. Great caliber. Once thru the die and ready to go
You can be as cheap as you like but at the end of the day you've got to sit back and decide what the intended purpose of the rifle is. Is it for hunting? plinking, or just a general purpose rifle. It's nice to save money but if the rifle doesn't fulfill it's purpose then you've spent money for nothing.
When I start determining on putting together a build, I first decide what the optimal cartridge is for the application. When I put together a rifle for long distance prairie dog hunts, I researched the different cartridges that would be suitable and decided on the 6mmAI. A model 98 receiver was cost efficient and fit the bill. I had it rebarreled and built my own stock. In the end I had a cost efficient long distance rifle that didn't break the bank.
When I start determining on putting together a build, I first decide what the optimal cartridge is for the application. When I put together a rifle for long distance prairie dog hunts, I researched the different cartridges that would be suitable and decided on the 6mmAI. A model 98 receiver was cost efficient and fit the bill. I had it rebarreled and built my own stock. In the end I had a cost efficient long distance rifle that didn't break the bank.
I'm having the same question - parameters of the cartridge are that it must fit through an AR platform, use .223/5.56 brass, work with an AR upper with a 20 inch barrel (extended gas system) and be legal for big game. The intended use would be for hunting deer size game with an AR. So far the investigation has resulted in a short list of 2 cartridges, the 6x45 and the ,25x45. Looking through the various bullet makers it appears the optimum mass produced, thus cheap enough to practice extensively with, have workable bullets in 6mm of 80 grain and .25 with 85 grain. I'm not sure that I would be dissatisfied with either one- just don't know which would be "best".
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
The reason i started using a 6x45 is to use my old odd lots of 68gr br bullets and powder. Back then lc brass was cheap.
Don't expect ME to talk you out of it. I have a McGowan Remage prefit sitting on the counter waiting for McMillan to deliver the stock, and a 223 Remington from the Gander clearance sale waiting as a donor.
It really depends on the purpose. For me, it was a <150yd lightweight deer gun that my young daughter could also handle shooting. Partly, I wanted to try a gun in the chambering before building one downsized for her. The 6X45 just seems so much more approachable for a 9-10 year old than a 243. I also plan to use it for prairie dogs. Yes, other rounds such as my 243AI do that so much better. But they do it at the expense of barrel life. I don't NEED my 243AI for shooting pdogs in the 250-400 yard range, but that is where the 223 and 20P get sketchy.
I have a home range and have multiple people who come out and shoot ARs in 223 but don't reload, and "pay" for range time by leaving their brass. This makes building both a 20 Practical (done last winter) and a 6X45 a no-brainer.
It really depends on the purpose. For me, it was a <150yd lightweight deer gun that my young daughter could also handle shooting. Partly, I wanted to try a gun in the chambering before building one downsized for her. The 6X45 just seems so much more approachable for a 9-10 year old than a 243. I also plan to use it for prairie dogs. Yes, other rounds such as my 243AI do that so much better. But they do it at the expense of barrel life. I don't NEED my 243AI for shooting pdogs in the 250-400 yard range, but that is where the 223 and 20P get sketchy.
I have a home range and have multiple people who come out and shoot ARs in 223 but don't reload, and "pay" for range time by leaving their brass. This makes building both a 20 Practical (done last winter) and a 6X45 a no-brainer.
Yes it would be just a tad better. Basically it is the AI version.
You'll love it...
Kermit
Kermit
I started with the 6X45 AI last season and it saw more action than any other this year. Filled my second doe tag with it last week after a bunch of Chucks this year. The fellow a couple hundred yards away thought I was using a handgun because of the noise. I'll bet the barrel lasts a real long time. Ballistics, noise, accuracy, component cost, just a bunch of reasons to love it!
All the above.
Easy to reload for, brass all over the place you can use, accurate as heck, perfect for p-dogs, coyote, deer & antelope.
Low recoil, can run 55-95g bullets and they will all shoot tight holes.
I have 9 or so 6x45 builds under my belt.
One of my favorite coyote rigs is my Savage 6x45.
My go to bullet for antelope is the 85g sierra & H335 powder.
Just about any powder you use will result in nice groups.
Easy to reload for, brass all over the place you can use, accurate as heck, perfect for p-dogs, coyote, deer & antelope.
Low recoil, can run 55-95g bullets and they will all shoot tight holes.
I have 9 or so 6x45 builds under my belt.
One of my favorite coyote rigs is my Savage 6x45.
My go to bullet for antelope is the 85g sierra & H335 powder.
Just about any powder you use will result in nice groups.
Define heavy.
While in order to get full use of the case capacity you want a 2.5+" OAL capability its really surprising what an AR mag length 6x45 can do, its shocking what a 6TCU or AI can do. I'd recommend an 8 twist, better splat for PD's and capability of shooting 107's, center feed mag for TCU or AI for a reliable repeater. 6x45 no mods required for feeding from a 223 box/follower in most cases.
For an idea of what the 6x45 can do in SAAMI spec 55kpsi with AR mag length take a look at the Western Powders load guide.
A 6mm, high round count per trip colony varminter doesn't get any cheaper than 223 brass and the 55g Nosler SHOTS at 6 cents apiece ($60.00/1000 at SPS today)
While in order to get full use of the case capacity you want a 2.5+" OAL capability its really surprising what an AR mag length 6x45 can do, its shocking what a 6TCU or AI can do. I'd recommend an 8 twist, better splat for PD's and capability of shooting 107's, center feed mag for TCU or AI for a reliable repeater. 6x45 no mods required for feeding from a 223 box/follower in most cases.
For an idea of what the 6x45 can do in SAAMI spec 55kpsi with AR mag length take a look at the Western Powders load guide.
A 6mm, high round count per trip colony varminter doesn't get any cheaper than 223 brass and the 55g Nosler SHOTS at 6 cents apiece ($60.00/1000 at SPS today)
rebel
Gold $$ Contributor
This is my bolt action set up. 2850 with 87 gr vmaxs. My 20 inch AR is about 100 fps slower give or take.
95 plus gr bullets slow you down considerably but if shoot deer at 150 yards I doubt they would notice.
Is yours a 6x45 or tcu?
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