Technique For Shooting A 2oz Trigger.

[alinwa]

Nick..... IF you do start messing with the trigger please forget EVERYTHING YOU EVER KNEW about triggers.

IF you ever want "to shoot teens" there's a few seemingly counter-intuitive rules you absolutely MUST get used to.

#1, that magical "break like a glass rod" trigger where you set the overtravel down to zero so's you cain't even feel the trigger move just BOOM!...... it's gotta' GO! You set that overtravel just as long and floppy/sloppy as you can

#2, that squeezy-wheezy thing with the thumb and forefinger....?.......it's gotta GO! (Altho Del Bishop useta use a modification of this where he made liddle wedges of rubber sponge foam and put one on the rear of the trigger guard so's he could find it with his thumb and sneak up on it.... he was shooting well under 2oz though. You get useta' 2oz and it's like an immovable boulder some days. Some days your finger joints are creaking to get two ounces to fire....)

#3, that thing where ya' bring the engagement down to about .002 etc etc.... it's all gone! This is now a 3-lever trigger, or better and you set the weight with SPRING pressure. It just ain't about "taking all the slack out" and getting the engagements down into danger-land. This trigger is DESIGNED for 2oz...


Now, it's ALL in the follow-through. It all happens AFTER you pull the trigger. What you do BEFORE the gun fires is meaningless. You can pick any finger, yank the trigger with a string or hit it with a stick...IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THROUGH!


Bottom line is, you can steer that gun all over the paper AFTER it goes boom, and most people do. If you're a bow shooter it's called "dropping your bow." If you're a pool shooter it's called "lifting your head." If you're in b-ball it's called "dropping your shoulders....."


Follow.



through.



opinionby....



al

 

[Baer45]

Nick all Jewells are adjustable down to 1.5 oz. You spoke
of a 2 stage, Jewell. If you have found one of those, its a rare item. I have been selling Jewells for roughly 15yrs and they were a discontinued item before I started. LDS

That is sad to hear. I think that is “just” for bolt guns. I have a LES Baer AR Varmiter that shoots one hole all day long with a 2 stage Jewel trigger I love...fwiw

 

[fredo]

Nick..... IF you do start messing with the trigger please forget EVERYTHING YOU EVER KNEW about triggers.

IF you ever want "to shoot teens" there's a few seemingly counter-intuitive rules you absolutely MUST get used to.

#1, that magical "break like a glass rod" trigger where you set the overtravel down to zero so's you cain't even feel the trigger move just BOOM!...... it's gotta' GO! You set that overtravel just as long and floppy/sloppy as you can

#2, that squeezy-wheezy thing with the thumb and forefinger....?.......it's gotta GO! (Altho Del Bishop useta use a modification of this where he made liddle wedges of rubber sponge foam and put one on the rear of the trigger guard so's he could find it with his thumb and sneak up on it.... he was shooting well under 2oz though. You get useta' 2oz and it's like an immovable boulder some days. Some days your finger joints are creaking to get two ounces to fire....)

#3, that thing where ya' bring the engagement down to about .002 etc etc.... it's all gone! This is now a 3-lever trigger, or better and you set the weight with SPRING pressure. It just ain't about "taking all the slack out" and getting the engagements down into danger-land. This trigger is DESIGNED for 2oz...


Now, it's ALL in the follow-through. It all happens AFTER you pull the trigger. What you do BEFORE the gun fires is meaningless. You can pick any finger, yank the trigger with a string or hit it with a stick...IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THROUGH!


Bottom line is, you can steer that gun all over the paper AFTER it goes boom, and most people do. If you're a bow shooter it's called "dropping your bow." If you're a pool shooter it's called "lifting your head." If you're in b-ball it's called "dropping your shoulders....."


Follow.



through.



opinionby....



al

Al, would you consider the technique shown below to be adequate or proper "follow thru" ?

Reposting that vid, as I saw it here recently. Upon watching it, I was cringing, as "follow thru" is one of the weakest points in my own shooting form...

 

[Ken6PPC]

You get used to a light trigger. I got to the point where I could gradually increase pressure on my 1.5 oz. Jewell triggers until getting to the break.

Don't jerk it! It may be hard to believe right now, but you CAN pull a heavy rifle off of your aiming point if you jerk the trigger!

 

[klmshooterk]

I have found with my stuff that I can free recoil with 1-14" twist barrels but when shooting 1-8" i have to use a slight hold on the tang...hope this helps some

 

[BoydAllen]

One problem that can happen with a very light trigger in combination with a set of flags is rushing the pull to catch a condition. It is not that you will shoot really badly, but rather that your group will not be as small as it would have been, by a small but significant amount.

I had an old 40X rimfire that I shot from the bench for a while. It was the best learning tool for trigger pull, because the combination of a 28" barrel and slow velocity exaggerated trigger pull faults. You could easily see the difference on the target. Even though I had fitted the rifle with a 2 oz. trigger if I did not center the trigger on my finger and pull straight back, the group would open up. If you learn to shoot an accurate .22 bench rifle well, you will have learned how to pull a trigger properly. With a short barreled center fire the effect is not so noticeable, and for that reason it is easy to pass it off as a wind or tune problem.

 

[Brians356]

Have you actually measured the pull?
You should be able to touch it without
firing a round.

It's hard to repeatably measure a trigger set that light with typical pull gauges.

I have a cylindrical 1-oz lead weight**. It is instructive to balance and heft that cylinder on a fingertip. I agree one should be able to touch the trigger shoe without firing a 2-oz trigger. But, many of us tend to be rather "ham handed" and don't realize it.

(** Purchased in the 1960s from Estes Industries, the model rocket company, as a payload that fit in their "X-ray" model with a clear plastic payload module.)



(Incidentally, 437.5 grs = 1 oz. My lead cylinder weighs 441.4 grs = 1.01 oz, close enough for model rockets!)
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