SWAGER ?

[Link]

What kind of swager do you use to remove the crimp on mil. primer pockets?

Do you still have to use a de burring tool or ball to finish the job?
If you do why not just use what I call a porting ball in a cordless drill to do the whole job?

thanks in advance.

 

[jonbearman]

I chuck up a vld reamer and cut lightly and it does a nice job with no leakage. You dont have to cut deep,try one and see how the primer starts and you will get the hang of it.

 

[spclark]

Porting ball might work OK, might take off too much metal too. I use an RCBS "rocket ship" style case chamfering tool (pointy on one end, fins on the other) to do this operation as needed. Never had a problem taking off too much; to little can be troublesome until you learn to tell when seating primers that a tight case needs another visit.

 

[KMart]

I use one of these tools from Forster chucked up in a cordless drill. Quick and easy. Works on large and small primer pockets.

http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/pid=44549/Product/Forster-Primer-Pocket-Chamfering-Tool

No deburing need afterwards.

 

[Keith Glasscock]

I just bought an RCBS swage tool-2. It does look a lot beefier than the original, and I'm having absolutely no problems doing 5.56 brass.

I know that guys were having problems with bent rods in the original. I think this one should hold up a bit better.

Oh, yeah, primers seat just like commercial cases (even the ppu brass that won't accept a primer after cutting the crimp out).

 

[bigedp51]

Below is a RCBS swage tool from the 1970s, it would push brass "INTO" the primer pocket instead of pressing the brass outward.

 

[Zia Hunter]

Dillon Super Swage works for me.

 

[Codeman]

+1 for the dillon super swager- fast

 

[Link]

Below is a RCBS swage tool from the 1970s, it would push brass "INTO" the primer pocket instead of pressing the brass outward.

Yup I borrowed one of those from a friend. I tried it and promptly returned it. [ he wondered why lol ] I found it to be a pita, that didn't work for ME. I wondered if I was just stupid ?

I went back to my "1/4 inch porting ball" chucked in a cordless drill. When I turn the pocket a little eyebrow piece of brass comes off then it starts to flake, that's when I stop.

I was just wondering if there is a better way?

thanks again.

 

[itchyTF]

Another +1 for the Dillon.

 

[amlevin]

For me the Dillon Super Swage is the only way to go. I've used reamers and the RCBS tool and found both to be a pain. The reamers remove metal irregularly from the sides of the primer pocket, depending on how much distortion was caused by the crimping process. The RCBS Swage did exactly what the pictures in a previous post showed and required far too much effort to extract the spud from the case. Case chamfer tools are at best, not very good as they do nothing to reform a distorted primer pocket.

The Dillon tool requires little effort to both swage or remove the swaging spud from the case. Easy enough that I have mine mounted to a "lap board" and swage cases while sitting and watching TV. Only thing necessary to get an even primer pocket mouth radius is case sorting. Process works best when all the cases in a batch are the same headstamp so the tool is properly adjusted.

I finally gave away my RCBS swaging tool.

 

[jsn]

Does anyone swaging use any lube on the spud? I'm thinking the spray kind, almost any (One Shot, Dillon, Midway, etc.), spray a little on a q-tip and apply to the spud every so many rounds as needed by feel.

 

[amlevin]

Haven't needed it with my Dillon but I can't see as it would hurt as long as your cleaning the cases afterward. Another suggestion would be to polish out the "spud" if it's rough like the RCBS appears to be. Some 2,000 grit wet/dry samdpaper to take off the machine marks then polish. Chuck it in a drill chuck large enough for the base for a quick job or just take your time and hand work it.

 

[bigedp51]

I stopped swaging my 5.56 cases with my old RCBS swager because I was beginning to think if your finger aren't bleeding your not having fun.

I'm lucky, I have another full five gallon bucket of Remington brass thats not crimped.

 

[Link]

Gentlemen, Lots of good info here.

I see on another site that a lot of people use a Weldon triangle shaped reamer and are very happy with them.
I would think my round "porting ball" would do a better job as it doesn't chatter in the hole.
If I were to do more than a few hundred cases I would go to the Dillon Super.

thanks

PS - Bib ed

man thats a lot of brass

 

[mj2evans]

If you have more than 50 cases get the Dillon tool - it really is worth the money. I still use the RCBS tool if I only have 10 cases with large primer to swage and the Dillon is currently sent up for small rifle.

 

[Bob L.]

Dillon

 

[NWnewguy]

The new RCBS tool looks pretty good, and it's a little cheaper than the Dillon, anyone used one a bunch yet?

 

[Link]

I'm on a limited budget when buying shootin things. So I kind of look at things at a cost per round thing. A Dillon is about $100 tyd. That is why I am sticking to my "ball" [ for now ]. I have read a bunch of threads on this subject and if I were to do more that a 1000 cases I would go Dillon, and only Dillon.


Ah anyone got a good used Dillon Super for sale ?

later

;D

 

[markm87]

I ditched the Super swager for the hornady cutting tool kit. You can buy the individual components, but the whole kit large/small primer and handle was like $28 or something.

Chuck the cutter in a drill and I can go just as fast as the swager, but NO ruined primer pockets. Cheap and it works good and fast.