Stone Age Machine Work……..

[Silo1616]

Here are the body fit bolts. I machined them this morning from Grade 8 bolt blanks.View attachment 1602565

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[ShtrRdy]

Here are the body fit bolts. I machined them this morning from Grade 8 bolt blanks.View attachment 1602565

Thanks for the picture of the bolts.

 

[ShtrRdy]

@jackieschmidt -- are there young people who pick up all the knowledge you have in working on the things you do? (I'm being vague because I've never been exposed to the things you do on boats)

-- Todd

 

[Fast14riot]

@jackieschmidt -- are there young people who pick up all the knowledge you have in working on the things you do? (I'm being vague because I've never been exposed to the things you do on boats)

-- Todd

I think everyone is younger than Jackie. Jesus owes him $5 still.

Seriously though, he's forgotten more than I will ever know!

 

[jackieschmidt]

@jackieschmidt -- are there young people who pick up all the knowledge you have in working on the things you do? (I'm being vague because I've never been exposed to the things you do on boats)

-- Todd

I am training a young man at this time to perform these types of tasks.
But keep in mind what I said before. Most of this sort of work involves as much figuring out how to do do it as it is actually performing the work.

I have taught several of our men this trade. I instill in them from the very beginning that it is just as important to know WHY you do things as much as it is to know HOW to do things. It all relates.

By the way, craftsmen who did outside work such as this in Shipyards have historically been called “out side Machinist”. In the rest of the trades they are more often called Millwrights”.

 

[jrb06]

I instill in them from the very beginning that it is just as important to know WHY you do things as much as it is to know HOW to do things. It all relates.

No truer comment can be made. This is the most eloquent and to the point statement that is not understood by so many today and really applies to everything we do. Sadly, most don't take the time to listen and think about this. Sharing knowledge like this comes from years of trial and error by those that have lived it, and you are wise to listen.

 

[AlNyhus]

Jackie, that IR pneumatic drill whip lashed me back to my Dad who was the lead maintenance man at a large feed mill. The shop had a WW2 era lathe and mill. And lots of power drills. The big dogs of the drilling equipment were a couple of IR pneumatics. -Al

 

[ShtrRdy]

I am training a young man at this time to perform these types of tasks.
But keep in mind what I said before. Most of this sort of work involves as much figuring out how to do do it as it is actually performing the work.

I have taught several of our men this trade. I instill in them from the very beginning that it is just as important to know WHY you do things as much as it is to know HOW to do things. It all relates.

By the way, craftsmen who did outside work such as this in Shipyards have historically been called “out side Machinist”. In the rest of the trades they are more often called Millwrights”.

Thank You the explanation Jackie. That makes a lot of sense. -- Todd

 

[jackieschmidt]

Thank You for explaining the "Body Fit Bolt". I'm sorry I couldn't ask the correct name.

Here is the bolt installed.

It seems like a lot of work for such a simple application, and in the Shop, it would be a 1 hour job.

But perhaps the phrase they use in the real estate business can be used in this instance. The difficulty in doing a certain job and having proper results depends on Location, Location, Location.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Jackie, that IR pneumatic drill whip lashed me back to my Dad who was the lead maintenance man at a large feed mill. The shop had a WW2 era lathe and mill. And lots of power drills. The big dogs of the drilling equipment were a couple of IR pneumatics. -Al

You notice that 1/2 inch rope I have the handle of the thing secured with.

These things are definitely not “hand drills”.

 

[AlNyhus]

You notice that 1/2 inch rope I have the handle of the thing secured with.

These things are definitely not “hand drills”.

Yep...that's what really caught my eye. I still have one of my Dad's Ingersoll Rand industrial model 1/2" electric drills.

 

[Bob3700]

Here is the bolt installed.

It seems like a lot of work for such a simple application, and in the Shop, it would be a 1 hour job.

But perhaps the phrase they use in the real estate business can be used in this instance. The difficulty in doing a certain job and having proper results depends on Location, Location, Location.View attachment 1602771

Jackie,
I did notice a few things in ur pictures. First u double ny-locked the bolts, nice touch.
Second: As someone who has taught students to work on airplanes for a couple of decades, where are ur safety glasses and hearing protection when drilling?
That is the one thing I cannot get the students to reliably do, wear their safety equipment. Those air motors produce loud, high pitch noise that has contributed to all of us older mechanics wearing hearing aids. Anyone who does wear them will tell u they don’t restore ur original hearing! Protect what u started with, there is no fix for some issues!
Bob

 

[Sniperhandle]

Jackie,
I did notice a few things in ur pictures. First u double ny-locked the bolts, nice touch.
Second: As someone who has taught students to work on airplanes for a couple of decades, where are ur safety glasses and hearing protection when drilling?
That is the one thing I cannot get the students to reliably do, wear their safety equipment. Those air motors produce loud, high pitch noise that has contributed to all of us older mechanics wearing hearing aids. Anyone who does wear them will tell u they don’t restore ur original hearing! Protect what u started with, there is no fix for some issues!
Bob

If you look at the first pic, Jackie and his employee are both wearing eye protection, In the second pic he is observing his employee work and yes he is not wearing them there, But hand tools are being used and he is away from the work being done.

My hearing is destroyed from working in shops my whole career, I wish I had worn ear protection early on, I wore it in the later years though and still have some hearing left, Although not much.

 

[JPB3]

Those body fit bolts 10 grand apiece ? LOL

 

[jackieschmidt]

These #3 motors have a pretty good muffler system, they are not that loud.
My hearing has been suspect for decades. But the point is well taken, you only have one set of eyes and ears, and anything that will cut steel will not even be slowed down by meat.and bones.

 

[Bob3700]

These #3 motors have a pretty good muffler system, they are not that loud.
My hearing has been suspect for decades. But the point is well taken, you only have one set of eyes and ears, and anything that will cut steel will not even be slowed down by meat.and bones.

Jackie,

I recently got hearing aids. Worked around Jet Engines and shooting without ear protection. It just wasn't required and we were young and invincible back then. The unfortunate thing about hearing aids, they don't restore your hearing to what you had when you were young. All of that fine definition and ability to discriminate various sounds is gone and (at present) nothing can bring all of it back. They are just a band-aid to help a bit. Better than nothing.

Eye protection - you are spot on about flying steel. The students come into the shop with their safety glasses on top of their heads or on top of their hats. I tell em, I don't think employers are looking to hire too many one-eyed mechanics. Really doesn't faze em.