Stock Design Recoil Calculator

[370bc]

I have shot several kimber rifles in 300 WSM that did not seem to recoil very bad because of their high comb stock design. Or at least that's what Im assuming is the reason.
I have a Tikka T3x light that weighs in at 9.75 Lbs. field ready, in 270 win, and still kicks more than I would like it to, even after a muzzle brake was installed. The top of the comb of the stock indicates the rifle was made for iron sights, and not for an optic. The kimbers, w/o a optic on it, all seemed to shoulder in a 30 degrees upwards fashion, more than other rifles. One cause might be the angle of the cut of the butt end. The other reason is the higher design of the top of the comb of the stock. The end result is the lighter Kimbers recoil noticeably less.
I now seem to be in the market for an after market stock for the Tikka. With prices ranging from $200 and close to $2000, I would like to make the most informed purchase I can make. I see recoil calculating formulas for rifles, weights and calibers & bullets used. I was wondering if there is a calculating formula for stock design.
Have any of you had an after market stock installed on a Tikka and noticed s reduction in recoil?? Thx in advance.

 

[Fast14riot]

What positions do you normally shoot in?

 

[370bc]

In the field, from a blind chair, using a tripod. Otherwise, from a bench, testing loads.

 

[CharlieNC]

I have the old Tikka 695 in 300WM, which is not a heavy rifle; in fact it was pretty light in the factory plastic stock. Shooting prone, I like a more vertical grip and high cheek rest. A few months ago I installed a Boyds Varmint stock to meet these needs; using a stock-pack for the cheek riser. It shoots fine prone without bad recoil. With Limbsaver recoil pad and optional laminate color it was < $200. For just a little money I have always been pleased with the Boyds.

 

[370bc]

I have the old Tikka 695 in 300WM, which is not a heavy rifle; in fact it was pretty light in the factory plastic stock. Shooting prone, I like a more vertical grip and high cheek rest. A few months ago I installed a Boyds Varmint stock to meet these needs; using a stock-pack for the cheek riser. It shoots fine prone without bad recoil. With Limbsaver recoil pad and optional laminate color it was < $200. For just a little money I have always been pleased with the Boyds.

 

[370bc]

Did you see a reduction in recoil? If so, how much?

 

[CharlieNC]

Did you see a reduction in recoil? If so, how much?

I cannot quantify how much. But the cheek height and vertical grip fit my prone style so the rifle recoils straight back in the prone; plus the Limbsaver dampens recoil to a push spread over time vs the sharper jolt with a lesser pad.

 

[370bc]

I put a new limb saver pad on, along with a vertical hand grip and beavertail forearm on the factory stock. The pad was a very nice investment. The vertical hand grip was the first i have used which was a big surprise and made proper trigger finger placement a lot more stable.
I called Manners about a stock for it. The one I was looking at has a very high comb and a vertical grip, which is what I am after. With flush cups & bedding, I was in the range of $650. The estimated weight is 48 ounces. Thats about a $425 difference between that & the Boyd.

 

[mikegaiz]

Go for a aftermarket muzzle brake (around $200 installed). it will not hurt accuracy a cut recoil 2/3. You will have to retest loads.

 

[370bc]

I have one installed. It works good. My last 270 was a browning Safari II W/BOSS. The recoil on that seemed half as much is what This Tikka is.

 

[mikegaiz]

I have one installed. It works good. My last 270 was a browning Safari II W/BOSS. The recoil on that seemed half as much is what This Tikka is.

There are better brakes than the boss.

 

[370bc]

What brakes do you like?

 

[M-61]

Isn't there some formula to determine perceived recoil based on the rise or drop of the comb of the stock? Long, long time ago I read something about this. It did not change the recoil but changed how it felt to the shooter. ( which is probably all that counts anyway)

 

[jrm850]

Are you feeling it in your cheek or at the shoulder? A comb that is closer to the bore axis in the front will hit you in the cheek a little more.

 

[mikegaiz]

I have built many custom stocks and the angle of the barrel line to the butt plate and how high to the comb will determines if the guns recoils back, up,or down. I usually per fur straight back and down a hair.

 

[370bc]

I wonder if you could give an opinion on some of the best and worst stocks out there and why.
My one brother had a standard Mossberg 500 that i zeroed in for him w/slugs. My other brother had a 500 Trophy Slugster. The felt recoil of the trophy Slugster seemed 40% less than the standard one. The difference was the height of the comb and the slope of the comb. The Slugster had a very high comb, running straight back to to butt end. The standard had a lower comb height and a sloping down comb, all the way back to the butt end.
The space between the bottom of my Kimber bolt is very close to the top of the comb. The space on the Tikka looks about 1/2 inch. Little difference mean a lot. Straight back and down sounds good.

 

[kzin]

Isn't there some formula to determine perceived recoil based on the rise or drop of the comb of the stock? Long, long time ago I read something about this. It did not change the recoil but changed how it felt to the shooter. ( which is probably all that counts anyway)

The vertical distance between bore line and where the stock contacts the shoulder should give a relative measurement.

ie AR design has a very small amount of difference.