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Stock Choice for Long Range Varminting

Hey guys, I thought it would be important to talk about this because so many people have a hard time trying to decide on what stock to use for this application,Long Range Varmint Hunting). Through out my gun building escapades, I ve used different stocks trying to find out what works best, or what works best for me. Your choice will depend on how you varmint hunt. Since were talking about long range varmint hunting, we are talking about rifles that are heavy and are not considered walking type rifles.

I have used the following stocks for Long Range Varminting;
1. McMillan Tooley MBR-Designed for long range shooting.
2. Shehan MBR Tracker-Desigend for long range shooting.
2. Manner's T4A-Desigend for long range tactical shooting.
3. McMillan A-5-' '
4. McMillan A-4-' '

If you decide that most of your long range varminting will be done from a bi-pod, I would recommend the McMillan A-5, A-4 or Manners T4A. However, if you decide to use your rifle set up with a stock like this, in a rest, you'll find out very quickly how much the gun rolls and torques. These stocks are designed for shooting off of bi-pods. They will work off of rests, however, you'll notice the roll and torque and that will effect accuracy for most shooters.

Don't get me wrong, you can still shoot very accurate off of the bags with a stock like this, but you can shoot better off the bags or rest with a stock that's designed for that application. I originally thought I would do the majority of my long range varminting off of a bi-pod when I had my rifle built. Well, I was wrong, I was doing more shooting off of my rest. In the beginning, I was ok with my Manners T4A set up. However, after I shot my gunsmiths rifle, off of a rest, with a McMillan Tooley MBR, I knew I needed to make a change.

There was a huge difference in the way the rifle recoiled when I shot his rifle with the Tooley MBR. The rifle came straight back, with no roll or torque. I really noticed how much better the MBR worked for this type of application. It should have been a no brainier in the beginning of my build. However, I learned again that a lot of this stuff is trial and error.

If your going to do long range varminting, more than likely your rifle will weigh around 15 to 20 pounds. I promise, when you start long range varminting, you'll find out how much better it is to shoot off of a rest. It would be better to build your rifle around a stock that will perform better in a rest. The Tooley MBR is designed for 600/1000 yard bench rest comps and I would recommend it for long range varminting. There are other models that are similar to the MBR, however, I would say the MBR performed the best for me.

If you decide to shoot off of a bi-pod, and maybe some bag or rest shooting, I would recommend the Manners T4A or the McMillan A-5. Out of those two, I would say the Manners T4A performed better for me. These two stocks have a wider forend and if you decide you need to shoot off of a rest or bags, they will allow for better shooting compared to the A-4, A-3, or A-2 McMillan models.

Make sure to really investigate what type of long range varminting your going to do before you order your stock. You don't want to be like me and find out later that you should have went with a different stock. That will cost more money and a lot more time because of waiting. It's important to understand, your stock choice will make a BIG difference in how your rifle will perform and how accurate it will be. For this application, I would highly recommend using a rest and a stock desigend for rest shooting.

At long range, you'll need to be able to squeeze out every bit of accuracy your rifle is capable of, and the stock is a big part of this. As I mentioned, the Tooley MBR will recoil straight back, not roll or torque. This will allow you to be comfortable, during shooting, and the most important thing, it will allow you to continue to see your site picture and hits at long range, which is very important for follow up shots on small targets like squirrels and P-Dogs. Barrels and Actions, well that's very important too. I have used differnt actions and barrels, so I will give you some insight on that subject too. I hope this was helpful to those who are wondering what type of stock would be better for them.
 
why didn't you like the Shehane Tracker ?I see no mention of it except in the list. I have a few ST1000Ls and couldn't be more pleased with their bag tracking. Great product in my opinion.
 
I liked the Tracker too, I just think the the Tooley MBR worked better for me, plus I like the colors McMillan offers. What works for me, might not work for the next guy. Just wanted to inform those, who are getting ready to build a rifle, about what stock should be used for types of shooting,Rest or Bi-pod shooting)
 
gd thread 6br agree totaly one other thing that i think is important to mention is that if youv got a,bag/rest)type of stock and feel the need to use a bipod occasionaly why not have a threaded pillar installed in the front end with a removable stud so you have the best of both worlds
cheers smackumdown
 
Nice write up! I agree with your conclusion, based upon my experience. As you said it is possible to use the bi-pod intended stock, but it requires more attention to detail. One note is that elevation is not a significant difference, but control of the right and left is more difficult for me. I have a level on most of my rifles so that helps.

The only other commit I have is that it takes slightly more time for me to get on target with the bag designed stocks. In some areas and for some varmints the added time is a potential problem.
 
Klong, your right, using a stock like the MBR will require a bit more time to get set up on a target. However, when your shooting squirrels and P-dogs past 400 yards, and out to 1000 yards, the time wont matter. But if you need to be mobile, than this type of sit up will not be good.
 
I typically use a HS precision on my mobile run&gun setup with bi pods and a #6 or similar contour. I would use a McMillan more often but the availability of the HS is why i use those. For my long range rifle I have been using the tracker stocks and love the way they shoot usually with a hv or straight 1.25 but the hassle of totin that thing& a rest& a rear bag it more times than not gets left home. Bill Shehane also has a varmint version of his tracker II with a 2.5 flat that only comes back 6' then turns into a semi beavertail with the flat bottom on the butt portion like the benchrest tracker stocks to stay on target during recoil. looks like it would be a great all around stock for bag shootin or run&gun bi pod shootin. I'm definitely gonna try one in the near future.
 

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