Steps to take?
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DirtySteve
Gold $$ Contributor
If he wanted to slander the guy he would have said his name up front. It is not slander when the guy said he would do the work and has not finished it in 16 months. It aint slander it is fact. Not sure what time frame BP1 was quoted but I am pretty sure it was far less than 16 months.
Dans40X
Welder
A certified letter or a registered return receipt is a waste of time & money,as the letter DOES NOT have to be accepted by the addressee.
After 2 weeks the certified letter would be returned.
Return postage guaranteed.
Contact a civil suite lawyer to notify the individual.
No reply/response, the lawyer will contact the authorities in the area to pay said individual a visit.
No reply/response,contact BATFE that a serialized receiver/part has been stolen.
After 2 weeks the certified letter would be returned.
Return postage guaranteed.
Contact a civil suite lawyer to notify the individual.
No reply/response, the lawyer will contact the authorities in the area to pay said individual a visit.
No reply/response,contact BATFE that a serialized receiver/part has been stolen.
dale boy, Why would it be a bad thing to name the individual that is in question?
I have never made a decision and the outcome was worse because I had more facts, unless the deciding factor was luck. Assuming we are all incapable of hearing the situation out and making our own informed decision is what I expect the government to assume the average American capable of, but I expect more on a forum like this.
If the person has an issue with what was said about him and would like to tell his side of the story, then we would all listen. If it's been 16 months and he's not waiting on parts, I can't think of an acceptable reason to still be dragging the process out. Letting our community know who this is so that we may pause and reflect before sending off thousands of dollars in equipment or a check for the same seems the reasonable and prudent thing to do. I can't see why there shouldn't be consequences for taking so long and continually over promising and missing dead lines.
Standing by for a reasoned argument to the contrary.
I have never made a decision and the outcome was worse because I had more facts, unless the deciding factor was luck. Assuming we are all incapable of hearing the situation out and making our own informed decision is what I expect the government to assume the average American capable of, but I expect more on a forum like this.
If the person has an issue with what was said about him and would like to tell his side of the story, then we would all listen. If it's been 16 months and he's not waiting on parts, I can't think of an acceptable reason to still be dragging the process out. Letting our community know who this is so that we may pause and reflect before sending off thousands of dollars in equipment or a check for the same seems the reasonable and prudent thing to do. I can't see why there shouldn't be consequences for taking so long and continually over promising and missing dead lines.
Standing by for a reasoned argument to the contrary.
And you helped how???
Just Dave
Gold $$ Contributor
+1 on involving local sheriff..
I got spooked once during an online purchase, I sent payment PP Friend/family, which as most know, offers ZERO buyer protection. The guy went AWOL, and left the forum, but I had sent payment to a girlfriends name, with a valid address.
I called his county sheriffs office, explained my dilemma, while acknowledging that it wasn't THEIR duty to retrieve my money, but sure would appreciate some judicial intervention. If they had time.
Boom ! .. 5 hours later I had my money back.
I got spooked once during an online purchase, I sent payment PP Friend/family, which as most know, offers ZERO buyer protection. The guy went AWOL, and left the forum, but I had sent payment to a girlfriends name, with a valid address.
I called his county sheriffs office, explained my dilemma, while acknowledging that it wasn't THEIR duty to retrieve my money, but sure would appreciate some judicial intervention. If they had time.
Boom ! .. 5 hours later I had my money back.
Fellas I wanna thank everyone for their help I in no way shape or form wanted this to turn into a pissing match about this or that just needed a little guidance on what to do. I have bought stuff from him in the past he is a hellava machinists.I did send him everything for the build except a recoil lug that he took care of and for the record I was never quoted a time and to be honest I never asked but have been told several times it will be in the mail this week.This build was for my son he was 12 1/2 Years old when I sent the stuff off and now is a week away from turning 14.I feel I have been more than patient and just want my stuff back so I can get it finished and my son will have his rifle. I am not going to say any I’ll words towards this man because things happen in life we have no control over.
tmwinds
Gold $$ Contributor
Bingo, we have a winner!
DHuffman
Silver $$ Contributor
It's called a warning shot Dale boy as in here's your last chance to do the right thing before I publicly "out" you.
Pretty effective last resort sometimes when nothing else seems to work.
Why is the customer required to follow legal recourse when the vendor is not following through with his end of the bargain?
Because sometimes that’s the only way left to gain back posession of customer’s property. Business ethics are pretty simple at this level: return my stuff or deal with escalating consequences of your inaction.
Actually, a certified letter is not a waste of time. In most jurisdictions a certified letter is required before filing in court. If he accepts the letter you have proof he received it. If he does not accept the letter, then you have the actual letter you sent and proof that he would not accept it. If he refuses the letter that actually helps your case. Many times, the certified letter is enough let the person know you mean business and prompt him to do comply with your wishes.
If you start with a lawyer you are gonna pay legal fees up front. Most likely, the attorney will send a certified letter before filing any legal proceeding. Do you want to pay an attorney to send the letter that you could send on your own?
If you start with a lawyer you are gonna pay legal fees up front. Most likely, the attorney will send a certified letter before filing any legal proceeding. Do you want to pay an attorney to send the letter that you could send on your own?
DHuffman
Silver $$ Contributor
I understand the advantages of a certified letter as well as the need for it if proceeding legally. I'm saying why does the OP owe the guy any courtesy at this point. I've had enough of these guys who take your money and don't do their part. If everyone would start outing these guys there would be a lot less of this crap going on.
Someone on here called it "circus syndrome" a while ago. No one wants to admit to a bad deal, buying a bad product or admit to being taken advantage of so they keep their mouth shut and let the next guy walk into the trap. It's the only reason most of these guys keep reeling them in.
I'm in a similar situation right now with a guy who hung the moon as far as many are concerned on this board and made mention of it in a recent thread where everyone was recommending him, everyone in the thread pretty much ignored my post and went on saying how great he is. At this point I may never get the stuff back or get it back without the work but I'm done keeping my mouth shut if I'm wronged.
Someone on here called it "circus syndrome" a while ago. No one wants to admit to a bad deal, buying a bad product or admit to being taken advantage of so they keep their mouth shut and let the next guy walk into the trap. It's the only reason most of these guys keep reeling them in.
I'm in a similar situation right now with a guy who hung the moon as far as many are concerned on this board and made mention of it in a recent thread where everyone was recommending him, everyone in the thread pretty much ignored my post and went on saying how great he is. At this point I may never get the stuff back or get it back without the work but I'm done keeping my mouth shut if I'm wronged.
DirtySteve
Gold $$ Contributor
If someone other than the person who was supposed to receive a certified letter signs for the letter. It will be presumed the intended person received the letter.
Yes, anyone at the address may sign for it but it is still legally deemed to be received by the intended recipient. Have been through this before, most recently with a guy who filed a protest with his CC company after we did some work on his boat. Had about $7,500 reversed out of our account. We sent registered letters to both addresses we have for him. His captain signed for one, the other was returned. No response from the owner. We had to send another registered letter to him and the bank that has his boat financed in order to perfect our lien (once we set foot on a boat that is documented with the Coast Guard we have a lien for the work, just have to perfect that lien according to Coast Guard regs). After we received the signature form from the bank and his returned letters we filed our lien with Coast Guard. Shortly after that we got a call from the customer (he was not returning our calls either). We got payment in less than a week.
Bottom line, the registered letter is not a courtesy to the other guy, it is a means of proving your due diligence if this does go to court. When you can show the court that you exhausted all your options before filing in court the judge is usually more receptive to your position. At least that has been my experience.
Bottom line, the registered letter is not a courtesy to the other guy, it is a means of proving your due diligence if this does go to court. When you can show the court that you exhausted all your options before filing in court the judge is usually more receptive to your position. At least that has been my experience.
I would send the certified letter first, and keep two copies. If you tell him your plan, he may just refuse to sign for the letter. I had that issue with a gunsmith in Utah, and he refused the letter.
Turned out he was in the middle of a divorce, and the wife owned the property where the shop was located. She had a restraining order. The Sheriff escorted him to the shop and he was able to take all of the customer work to a friend's place.
Turned out he was in the middle of a divorce, and the wife owned the property where the shop was located. She had a restraining order. The Sheriff escorted him to the shop and he was able to take all of the customer work to a friend's place.
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